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« on: March 10, 2005, 03:01:48 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2005, 03:03:27 PM »

Hehe... dont let Michael at Audi install it. I watched him fumble over that shit for 2 days! And its a simple joerb!
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2005, 03:10:30 PM »

pfft.... that is a $6200 Lysholm kit... not a chance in hell of me strapping that to my wife's car!
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2005, 03:22:01 PM »

damn :shock:
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2005, 05:56:38 PM »

Are those AC lines?  Are they using the AC as an intercooler?
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2005, 06:55:50 PM »

Ok, forgive the stupid question, but why would a blower need an intercooler? If you had a decent CAI it would be just as good right???

I know that cooler intake temps are better, but I just do not see a tangible advantage on a supercharger.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2005, 09:17:32 PM »

Any time you compress air it get's hotter, that's why
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2005, 09:18:38 PM »

a s/c still compresses air... what happens when you compress air?  its gets hot...
If you run enough boost you will need one.  Still same concept, turbo's just get hot easy cuz of the exhaust... but a s/c will get hot too..
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 12:16:45 AM »

Like Pat said, anytime you compress air, heat is a byproduct.  The adiabatic efficiency of a compressor basically determines how much heat is added for a given compression - you can think of it as 'X' amount of heat per psi of boost if it is simpler.  

Roots blowers are not very adiabatic efficient - they create a lot of heat.  Thats one of the big problems with a Neuspeed blower or Jackson Racing blower that use Eatons on relatively high compression motors w/o an intercooler.  So, a Roots type supercharger will need an intercooler more than a turbo or centrifugal supercharger given the same boost levels.  

Los, no, turbos don't heat the intake air because of the exhaust.  They are much better at keeping the intake charge cooler because of the typically higher compressor efficiency.  

A CAI does absolutely nothing to cool the air after it is compressed.  I have seen horsepower drop with higher boost levels because the compressor was way past its efficiency and it was only making more heat, not really compressing any more air into the engine.  And I hope I don't need to tell you what happens when your intake charge is already super hot before it goes in the combustion chamber.  Preignition, detonation, etc...
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2005, 12:57:11 PM »

Haha you guys are funny!  Yeah, superchargers benefit from intercoolers too.  And I don't think those are AC lines.  They look like fuel lines to the injectors to me.  Even if they were AC lines they have nothing to do with the intake tract.  I think the hardest part of puuting this in your wifes car Nappy would be the engine swap.  We all know how good you are at pulling that off. :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2005, 05:38:00 PM »

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I think the hardest part of puuting this in your wifes car Nappy would be the engine swap.  


My wife drives a 92 Audi 100CS... so exactly what swap would be required?

Thanks for playing junior...  :roll:
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2005, 06:06:14 PM »

100cs has a V8?
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2005, 06:08:13 PM »

Or does that pic show a V6?  I think I count 8 sparkplug wires.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2005, 06:11:52 PM »

The title of the picture is "best12vsc", 1.5 valves/cylinder?
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2005, 06:15:41 PM »

Huh?  Where are you seeing the title?  Oh well, I guess it is the six.  The pic sucks.  I thought that was the kit I had seen before for the 4.2.  I stick to my guns that Nappy still couldn't pull it off though!
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2005, 07:25:55 PM »

the kit will work on either motor...
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2005, 06:15:32 PM »

I SERIOUSLY hope you did not send them any $$$. You will likely never get your parts you know. Check out the search page on Audiworld and type in Motodyne, you'll soon figure out what I mean.

http://www.audiworld.com/search/
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2005, 06:19:26 PM »

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not a chance in hell of me strapping that to my wife's car!



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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2005, 06:31:55 PM »

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not a chance in hell of me strapping that to my wife's car!



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For what it's worth, I have never done business with the guy.

However several guys on AW (who's opinions I respect) have claimed fraud and other schenanigans against Motodyne. Unless you could go there and physically pick up your merchandise I would not do business with him. I have heard way to many horror stories.

Again my opinion, for what it is worth.
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2005, 06:37:45 PM »

Sounds like the Eurotech guy down in Tampa... as shady as they get!

I am on Audiworld at least twice a week, but I only read the C4 forum and Rocky Mountain...  :cool:
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2005, 07:28:20 PM »

Quote from: "Colorado16v"
Sounds like the Eurotech guy down in Tampa... as shady as they get!

I am on Audiworld at least twice a week, but I only read the C4 forum and Rocky Mountain...  :cool:


I am new here, I checked out this site because a new neighbor of mine just moved to CA from CO and he put some pics of my CGT turbo up here. When I saw your post I thought you may want to know what your dealing with.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2005, 07:32:53 PM »

Welcome to Colorado.... sorta...

and you got one cool neighbor... Oliver rules (and so does your car!)
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2005, 08:10:48 PM »

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Welcome to Colorado.... sorta...

and you got one cool neighbor... Oliver rules (and so does your car!)


Thanks.

Yeah Oliver seems like a cool guy. He posted on VW Vortex that he was moving to my area with that Getta of his, I told him to hit me up when he got there. We hooked up last week. His car is sweet also.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2005, 07:45:54 AM »

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Yeah Oliver seems like a cool guy.


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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2005, 11:02:29 PM »

so everyone now knows why a supercharger can benefit from an intercooler, right? because maybe it wasnt gone over enough in this thread.  maybe someone should explain it one more time, because i dont think some people have quite got the concept yet.
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