Topic: Price for a 1.8l 8v (Read 1719 times)

fitzlaughlyn · « **on:** March 03, 2006, 06:56:08 AM »

What's a 1.8l 8v worth without the wiring harness?

Might have found one in Denver.

Scott · « **Reply #1 on:** March 03, 2006, 07:05:41 AM »

about 50... :mrgreen:

London · « **Reply #2 on:** March 03, 2006, 07:13:52 AM »

there is probably 25 of em at local junkyards... IMO it's worth next to nothing. How much are they asking for it?

Jesus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2006, 07:21:25 AM »

Quote from: "London"

IMO it's worth next to nothing.

Pretty much

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2006, 07:51:19 AM »

He's asking for offers and it's in Denver.

What does A1 charge for an engine that size? Anyone seen a low milage one there?

MistressAnne · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2006, 07:57:11 AM »

I lost the price list, call them up. They open at 9.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2006, 08:02:58 AM »

I seem to think that with the core charge they'd cost more than $50.

MistressAnne · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2006, 08:17:05 AM »

More than likely. Can they charge a core charge at a junkyard? I would think no, but I have no idea.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2006, 03:39:49 PM »

They do for trannies.

greggearhead · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:25:02 PM »

I thought it was $100 at A1. I can't remember, haven't bought an engine there in several months.

I wouldn't spend more than $50 on a 1.8 8V unless I was in dire straights and had to have it right then. Or unless it had like 1,000 miles on it, then I would spend $55. I have thrown so many 8V motors away it is sad.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2006, 10:23:11 PM »

Yea I was thinking is was around there.

The engine the guy has is around 150k, with a tranny on a 210mm fly wheel upgrade and pressure plate. Donor car was an 86 Jetta GL. Depeding on the tranny code I may check it out. As the clutch is supposed to be less than a year old.

Need a new clutch anyway. Need to find a 210mm fly wheel and upgrade that at the same time.

greggearhead · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2006, 09:21:00 AM »

The clutch (incl flywheel) is bolted to the crank, so unless he removes it, you can use it.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:33:04 AM »

WERDNA75: The Trans is the Wide Ratio box , but $50 for the Engine is insulting even though it is an 8V !!! . I would just rather keep it for a spare for my car that has the exact same engine in it.

Seems he got all ass hurt that his 1.8l 8v is worth around $50 without wiring harness. I can't use the manifold and it's got 150k on it.

Scott · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:38:10 AM »

oh man... that is slingblade... do not even fuck with that dude, he is the biggest retard in Colorado!

London · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:39:43 AM »

that guy is a fucking dipshit, he always has been....

DutchVDub · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:44:03 AM »

Fitz, I still have my 8V from a MK2. If thats the one you need just come and get it. 50$ plus however much gas you burn getting here and uts yours.

MistressAnne · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:59:13 AM »

Check out this thread Fitz: http://edition719.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3766&highlight=andy+andrew

greggearhead · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2006, 02:31:00 PM »

Yeah, that dude is bad news. Period - stay away.

sad_rocc · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2006, 04:24:31 PM »

Maybe give Andy Maas a call? He seems to always have stuff. Or whats-his-name at RS Motorsports might have one laying around from a swap. If you're gonna swap an 8v, at least get a 2L bottom end.

Jesus · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2006, 08:35:08 PM »

Quote from: "fitzlaughlyn"

WERDNA75: The Trans is the Wide Ratio box , but $50 for the Engine is insulting even though it is an 8V !!! . I would just rather keep it for a spare for my car that has the exact same engine in it.

Seems he got all ass hurt that his 1.8l 8v is worth around $50 without wiring harness. I can't use the manifold and it's got 150k on it.

Fuck that Dood..aka SLINGBLADE

I would rather walk than deal with him. As far as your 50 dollar offer being an insult for a 150K 8V.. I would say it's more like an insult to you that he thinks it's worth more. Hell the fucker is probably worth more as scrap metal than as an engine. You should tell him that

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #20 on:** March 05, 2006, 08:45:10 PM »

Quote from: "sad_rocc"

Maybe give Andy Maas a call? He seems to always have stuff. Or whats-his-name at RS Motorsports might have one laying around from a swap. If you're gonna swap an 8v, at least get a 2L bottom end.

Doesn't that take more shoe horning to get in? I seem to remember that takes an adjustment to the distributor and some other stuff. Didn't seem like a drop in project like the 1.8l would be.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #21 on:** March 05, 2006, 08:45:49 PM »

Quote from: "DutchVDub"

Fitz, I still have my 8V from a MK2. If thats the one you need just come and get it. 50$ plus however much gas you burn getting here and uts yours.

I'll get back to you this week, money just got tight and I still have to get all of the parts I ordered into the beast. LOL

Jesus · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2006, 08:48:57 PM »

Quote from: "fitzlaughlyn"

Quote from: "sad_rocc"
Maybe give Andy Maas a call? He seems to always have stuff. Or whats-his-name at RS Motorsports might have one laying around from a swap. If you're gonna swap an 8v, at least get a 2L bottom end.

Doesn't that take more shoe horning to get in? I seem to remember that takes an adjustment to the distributor and some other stuff. Didn't seem like a drop in project like the 1.8l would be.

There is a little bit of work involved, not that much though..but seriously if you are swapping a 1.7 for a 1.8 8 Valve you are just plain retarded..yeah I said it.

All that work for basically nothing.

If you are going to do it at least make it worth your time or leave it alone.

Scott · « **Reply #23 on:** March 05, 2006, 08:57:39 PM »

hey I found my flywheel... 20 bones and it is yours...

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #24 on:** March 05, 2006, 09:50:53 PM »

Cool, gotta find a 210mm 8v clutch now. Is it in decent shape or do I need to get it machined?

sad_rocc · « **Reply #25 on:** March 05, 2006, 10:16:03 PM »

Nah it just takes a few parts from TT. A block off plate and some other little bits, which you would put on pre-install. Definitely worth it unless it's for some DD you're just putting to and from work in. Here's some info. I'm on dial-up so I didn't want to take the 20min to check the links.
http://www.driversfound.com/scirocco/

I think TT may have more info on their site as to what parts you need.

greggearhead · « **Reply #26 on:** March 06, 2006, 06:26:06 PM »

Quote from: "Jesus"

There is a little bit of work involved, not that much though..but seriously if you are swapping a 1.7 for a 1.8 8 Valve you are just plain retarded..yeah I said it.

All that work for basically nothing.

If you are going to do it at least make it worth your time or leave it alone.

I'm gonna disagree with you there, Pat. The 1.7 starts at like 74hp tops out at like 80hp with an exhaust, cam, intake, etc. The head holds it way back.

A 1.8 is begging for mods with decent potential. 120hp with bolt ons is totally doable. The mildly built and ported 1.8 carbed 8V Pickup I had in Iowa was quicker than a stock 16V Scirocco, and I was using a wide ratio trans.

Also - the 1.8 makes the thing liveable stock - the 1.7 makes you want to shoot it every time you get out of it.

Jesus · « **Reply #27 on:** March 06, 2006, 06:32:05 PM »

This is Fitz we're talking about here Greg..the chances of him modding a 1.8L 8 Valve to a 120hp level are about as likely as Nappy not trying to publish internet graphics in paint.

So that's why I say what's the point? Especially if the 1.7 runs anyway

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2006, 08:24:31 AM »

You're right Pat I won't be modding a 1.8l to 120hp anytime soon. The 1.7l is 100% gutless, but it does run. Still though the motor mounts I need to replace will cost as much as the engine. That'll put up at 90hp.

Got another IM today on VORTEX, not sure what I'd do with a bare G60, wouldn't the compression be a bit low for an NA motor?

PUREDREAMZ: i got a bare g60 block and g60 head if ur interested

MistressAnne · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2006, 08:34:31 AM »

His profile says he lives in Canada.. I don't think you want to worry about shipping.

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2006, 09:17:45 AM »

Wasn't really thinking about it to hard. Just was curious.

Jesus · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2006, 05:53:02 PM »

Quote from: "fitzlaughlyn"

Got another IM today on VORTEX, not sure what I'd do with a bare G60, wouldn't the compression be a bit low for an NA motor?

PUREDREAMZ: i got a bare g60 block and g60 head if ur interested

That would be a dog without boost

sad_rocc · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2006, 08:23:58 PM »

I didn't think the compression was all that much lower on a g60. 9.0:1 maybe? The RD block is 10:1, which is the highest compression, most hp stock 1.8 8v that I know of (aside from maybe a Huron).

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #33 on:** March 08, 2006, 06:29:02 AM »

Yea, but zero benfit unless I was to boost it. It doesn't have any of the stuff you'd want with a G-60 engine.

greggearhead · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2006, 07:02:27 PM »

Shut up bitches.

G60 is 8.5:1. 40mm intake valves and 33mm exhaust.

Guess what the first Rabbit GTI was?

8.5:1, 40mm intake valves, 33mm exhaust.

It would be perfectly fine to run as is. You would pay a premium for a G60 vs any run of the mill 1.8, but that isn't what you were asking.

If you install a higher compression 1.8 (10:1 RD motors, etc) and take it to sea level, you will have to run very conservative ignition timing, and premium, and possibly go with knock sensor ignition.

Jesus · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2006, 07:09:11 PM »

So is that why all the guys that used to bypass the chargers on their G60 motors complained so much about what a dog the engine was?

greggearhead · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2006, 07:16:44 PM »

That's because it was 1000lbs heavier than the Rabbit it was in.

You know of any stock engined Passat 16Vs that are smokin fast? No. But that engine in a Rabbit/Caddy....

fitzlaughlyn · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2006, 07:21:18 PM »

hmmmm

Speaking of old Rabbits, I need to track down a 1.5l or 1.6l cam.

London · « **Reply #38 on:** March 09, 2006, 03:21:40 AM »

i love these posts where there are pages and pages if technical talk, all for no reason because nothing is gonna happen anyway...

Fitz how many years are you gonna talk about building an 8v before you jut do it?...lol

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