Topic: *SNIFF*SNIFF*My luck finally ran out (Read 960 times)

Soldier Boi · « **on:** February 12, 2006, 06:37:14 AM »

So like the title says, my good luck with my car having little to no issues just ran out. Everything was running fine when I went home at about 1amish to take a nap (i had 24 hour duty) when my car started to sputter and hesitate and only push out 4lbs of boost. Before, when the car wouldnt be parked in the garage, I would have some cold start issues where the car wouldnt idle correctly, but after it warmed up everything was fine. So thats all I figured it was and i thought it would go away. But after driving it somemore and still the same symptoms, I was starting to get a little worried.

So when I pull in my driveway and shut the car off, I start it back up to see if it went away, and still the same stuff. So I pop the hood to see if I can see anything unusuall, mind you it is early in the freakin moring and I cant see anything with this P.O.S flashlight that I am using. So everything looks okay and left it alone and went to take a nap.

5:15 am comes and I go to start up the car and still the same crap. Well i have to get back to duty so I drive the car there and back. I know its probly not absolutely safe, but i dont have any choice. Oh and also when i am pushing on the accelerator, the check engine light flashes, but when i am stopped at a light it goes seady on.

Here is my quick, tired ive been up for the past 24 hours, diagnosis. Maybe my cyllinders are misfiring, like 2-3 out of 4 are. The car sounds like its running out of gas and about to die but still keeps its idle. It has well over half a tank. Also the car is sounding like an old beetle when i am taking off in first and second gears.

Los or anyone else who has VAGCOM, can you lend a helping hand and computer so i can see if it is throwing anyother codes than the previous one that i threw (02 sensor on the cat.) Also any other input would be greatly appreciated. I am going to go to sleep for a few hours and then im gonna go tear the thing apart to see if i could fix it. I refuse to drive this thing anywhere else for I have a fear of what Lindsey went through and blowing my turbo because of some strange reason.

My mods are: Revo 4bar, N75J, AEM CAI, Hyperboost DV, 3in TB, Samco TIP, EVOMS FMIC. Those are the main ones that cause an increase in HP/Boost so that is all im gonna list. I will have my instant messenger on if you would like to chime in and give your input there as well. mister_a218@yahoo.com
thanks guys and girls.

Jesus · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2006, 06:57:35 AM »

Check your ECU coolant temp sensor

London · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:04:27 AM »

first thing i'd do is unplug your maf and see if you cold start idle issue goes away.

Jesus · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:08:03 AM »

Yeah that too

The reason I said coolant temp sensor is because I had basically the exact same problem with that B5 Passat (1.8T) .. turned out to be the sensor causing all the headaches

Macktastic · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:47:43 AM »

the first question somebody should ask oneself is.........why were you derelict in your duty ?

maybe i jumped ahead of myself........ what kind of duty were you on ?

DutchVDub · « **Reply #5 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:11:23 AM »

He was probably on CQ, and normally you and the other CQ runner make a little nap-time schedule with eachother.

LOS · « **Reply #6 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:40:24 AM »

Nick, seriously, im thinkin its your coilpacks. WHen my coilpack went on the jetta it did exactly that and ran like ass. It was hard to drive and the cel was flashing when driving, but then when it was stopped at a light it was just solid... im leaning towards that.

Jesus · « **Reply #7 on:** February 12, 2006, 09:01:20 AM »

Good call on the coilpacks Clarence.. I forgot about that one.
Were the coilpacks problematic on the '03's ?

Scott · « **Reply #8 on:** February 12, 2006, 09:02:20 AM »

Sounds like you forgot to put witner air in your summer tires... ;-)

My money is on one of the first two sugestions...

LOS · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2006, 09:06:03 AM »

Quote from: "Jesus"

Good call on the coilpacks Clarence.. I forgot about that one.
Were the coilpacks problematic on the '03's ?

Not as much as up to 02... but if its an early 03 it could still run into that issue. And even though they changed manufacturers and solved most of the problem, the new manufacturer may have some units that prematurely fail.

oliver · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2006, 09:12:39 AM »

coil packs,... vaggie her to check the codes

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:32:08 AM »

Quote from: "oliver"

coil packs,... vaggie her to check the codes

This is probly gonna be the only way to tell... right? The coilpacks were my next diagnosis, but I didnt know what the symptoms of bad coilpacks were. And when you say to "check them", what exactly am I checking them for?

motel6 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:35:49 AM »

You all are just taking shots in the dar. The only way to begin to diag the problem is to VAG it. And remember, just b/c the VAG says its something, doesn't mean that's the CAUSE, just the SYMPTOM.

JettaGLXdriver · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:40:08 AM »

Actuall Nappy's guess was probably right on and not a shot in the air at all.

Jesus · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:40:10 AM »

I don't think anyone is implying that he just throw parts at the car Lovett

themoneypit · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:42:02 AM »

my old car had the exact same problems (the 2003 jetta 1.8T). But that was 2 years ago so i took it in to huebuger VW. They replaced the coilpacks.

was not a good expirence with huebuger VW. in fact i still hate huebuger :mad:

Jesus · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:45:12 AM »

Quote from: "themoneypit"

was not a good expirence with huebuger VW. in fact i still hate huebuger :mad:

Just like any VW Dealership in Colorado Springs ..Heuberger sucks .. as does Team

Anyway...
Nick I think your problem could be a broken exhaust tip

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:45:35 AM »

Okay the thing i am still stuck on.... is that when i am idling and its running like ass, for about 2-3 seconds it idles normal and then goes back to ass again. But definately when I am driving, its like ass all the time.... no breaks.

Jesus · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:47:05 AM »

VAG-COM it .. if the CEL came on then there is definitely a code or several codes stored

London · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:47:06 AM »

checking out the maf and coil packs on a shitty running 1.8t are hardly taking "shots in the dark".

I'd still unlpug the maf and see if it runs better, it takes about two seconds. The reason I suggest that is so he could "limp" the car around if he needed. I agree that the real issue is probably the coil packs.

Vag it that's always obvious.

If that doesn't work then I'd get a new transmission and swap out te gauge cluster for one that doesn't have that pesky CEL on.

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:51:11 AM »

[quote="Jesus]Anyway...
Nick I think your problem could be a broken exhaust tip

[/quote]

okay Pat stop fuckin with me, i am very irritable and bound and determined to fix this problem with my pride and joy. I know you arent serious and trying to cheer me up..... right? :evil:

Jesus · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:54:26 AM »

:cool: Trying to cheer you up a little Nick..

It's just a car, if it breaks it can be fixed

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2006, 11:54:51 AM »

Quote from: "LOS"

Nick, seriously, im thinkin its your coilpacks. WHen my coilpack went on the jetta it did exactly that and ran like ass. It was hard to drive and the cel was flashing when driving, but then when it was stopped at a light it was just solid... im leaning towards that.

you busy today? i dont think i can wait til tuesday when i see you next. come on Los... come through for me!

Scott · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:03:11 PM »

I think it is a combo of the winter air/ summer tires and the exhuast tip, but I might be wrong... ;-)

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:06:02 PM »

alright well im gonna go and see what i can come up with. I will keep you all posted on the progress. I hope this doesnt become too expensive.

MistressAnne · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2006, 12:37:45 PM »

Quote from: "Soldier Boi"

Quote from: "LOS"
Nick, seriously, im thinkin its your coilpacks. WHen my coilpack went on the jetta it did exactly that and ran like ass. It was hard to drive and the cel was flashing when driving, but then when it was stopped at a light it was just solid... im leaning towards that.

you busy today? i dont think i can wait til tuesday when i see you next. come on Los... come through for me!

He is up 4 wheeling right now, you could probably try calling him...

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2006, 01:10:39 PM »

So I unplugged the MAF. At first, the car was idling fine and then I unplugged it and it sputtered and ran like ass again so i plugged it back in. then when it started to sputter while it was plugged in, I unplugged it and it idled fine for about 2 seconds and then went back to sputtering. There is a strong smell in my garage of possibly raw fuel, I dunno what it is. Also when I unplugged the MAF, my traction control light came on and wouldnt shut off even though I tried to turn it off. So if I cant get a VAG COM soon, Im just gonna resent the ECU and go from there. does this sound like bad coilpacks. I pushed all of them down real hard and checked the wiring harnesses and all seemed okay, none of them were popped up like ive been hearing about when I searched.

OneShotOneKill · « **Reply #27 on:** February 12, 2006, 02:12:59 PM »

Quote from: "LOS"

Nick, seriously, im thinkin its your coilpacks. WHen my coilpack went on the jetta it did exactly that and ran like ass. It was hard to drive and the cel was flashing when driving, but then when it was stopped at a light it was just solid... im leaning towards that.

I think that's whats wrong with my car!

LOS · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:26:20 PM »

nick, I'll call you in a few...

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #29 on:** February 12, 2006, 04:56:56 PM »

Quote from: "LOS"

nick, I'll call you in a few...

im waiting......

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #30 on:** February 12, 2006, 05:37:33 PM »

I pulled off the coilpacks, changed the sparkplugs and reassembled. When I initially started it up, i thought everything was fixed. No CEL, no sputtering when idling or when I step on the accelerator. So i went for a ride around the block and I still have major sputtering and still no boosting over 4 psi. And then the CEL flashes and stays on when at an idle. But it does run better when you initally start it up and let it idle, and even when you press the gas.

LOS · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2006, 06:03:10 PM »

Im pretty sure its your packs man... I'll swing down there an look at it.

MistressAnne · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2006, 07:54:21 PM »

Now that it's been almost 2 hours.. is there a verdict?

LOS · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:06:14 PM »

Im still leaning towards the coilpacks...
he had multiple cylinder misfires, in cyl 2,3 and 4. Never said 1.
It also had a no maf signal but he did say he unplugged the maf. So that should be the cause of that cel.
And i did read some measurements.. . 26 misfires by reving it up to about 3500... Im almost positive thats whats up.

Jesus · « **Reply #34 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:07:50 PM »

Nothing on that temp sensor?

LOS · « **Reply #35 on:** February 12, 2006, 08:09:17 PM »

nope... the only other dtc was his cat.
IT did have an unknown dtc... dont know why it would say unknown but besides that its just the misfires and the one for the maf.

OneShotOneKill · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2006, 01:53:10 PM »

Well this is most likely what is wrong with my car also.....have to look into new coil packs as I just got new plugs/wires in the mail today.

Let me know what it turns out to be.

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:41:07 PM »

Okay so check this... I called Hamburger today. 31 bux and some change per coilpack. So I asked if they were warranted. He said if they insall them they will be warrented, and that would be 142.xx for just installation because they would have to scan the car to see if it was exactly the coilpacks. I told him that they were 98 percent the coilpacks and i asked him if it would still be that much for just the installation of the coilpacks. He said that it is 96 bux per hour for the shop and yes it is still 142.xx for installation and warranty. So I was looking roughly about 266 bux for these installed out the door. Oh, and I had to make an appointment for this less that 10 minute job..... that I just did my self. (more on that later)

Next I called team VW and they sold them for 27.xx a piece. I went to them after calling around 10+ stores in town and getting no one that carries them. So I asked them just out of curiosity how much to install them with a warranty. They said the parts have a 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty by them selves and it would be around 140 to 160 to install. So i told them no thanks on the installation, I could do it my self, buy a keg, get drunk, change my oil, flush my radiator, rotate my tires, bleed my brakes and put on my steelbraided hoses, and go to a stripclub and still buy 2-3 lapdances for that.

Came home, installed the new coilpacks and took it for a cruise around the block. Runs great, and I hope this solves the rough idle it has every once in a while. But I was thinking.... when I changed my plugs last June, I put dielectric grease on the tip of my spark plug.... do you think this was a cause in the malfunctioning of the coilpack?

Jesus · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:46:55 PM »

Good news :thumbup:

Are you surprised that Hamburger sux?

Soldier Boi · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:52:38 PM »

Quote from: "Jesus"

Good news :thumbup:

Are you surprised that Hamburger sux?

No, but Carlos recommended them to me. He said that they replaced his coilpacks under recall, but apparently my VIN doesnt have ANY recalls at all, not one! oh well.

Scott · « **Reply #40 on:** February 13, 2006, 10:13:05 PM »

Quote from: "Soldier Boi"

I put dielectric grease on the tip of my spark plug.... do you think this was a cause in the malfunctioning of the coilpack?

no

LOS · « **Reply #41 on:** February 13, 2006, 11:02:23 PM »

Quote from: "Soldier Boi"

Quote from: "Jesus"
Good news :thumbup:

Are you surprised that Hamburger sux?

No, but Carlos recommended them to me. He said that they replaced his coilpacks under recall, but apparently my VIN doesnt have ANY recalls at all, not one! oh well.

Yeah im surprised that they didn't cover them cuz the coilpacks have been quite the issue on 1.8Ts. Glad you got it fixed though.

djsatan · « **Reply #42 on:** February 14, 2006, 04:31:02 AM »

:rock_on: right on, glad you got it cleared up!

OneShotOneKill · « **Reply #43 on:** February 14, 2006, 10:44:22 AM »

Sweet, looks like i'll be buying new coilpacks soon.

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