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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2011, 11:12:21 PM »

I have a brand new still in the box set of zimmermann 9.4" drilled rotors and pads. If you are interested.
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »

I have a brand new still in the box set of zimmermann 9.4" drilled rotors and pads. If you are interested.

PM sent.

Is the 87 1.8 16v ran by CIS E in the GTI golfs?
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2011, 09:34:59 PM »

All 1.8 16v engines were CIS-e and all 2.0 16v engines were CIS Motronic. Only the ABF sold in Europe had a multipoint EFI system. I think CIS-e is a decent system, but can get finicky. CIS-m is pure and utter shit. Both the 1.8 and 2.0 had forged internals with oil squirters. The 1.8 and 2.0 heads started out with the same casting. The differences are in the valve sizes with the 1.8 getting larger intake valves, but smaller exhaust valves. Only reason to put out the effort to get one is if you're going for NA only power. It doesn't matter much in boosted applications, unless you're just going for ubber horsepower freak status. To lower the compression on a 16v get some head studs and either double stack head gaskets or get a head spacer. There are plenty of cars out there in the 200-400hp range that do this, and plenty of name brand turbo kits for VW engines that use head spacers. Only time anyone ever has an issue is from their own stupidity with not being able to use a torque wrench. Anything above 350hp and I'd say replace the rods with some H-beams, and you may as well do pistons at the same time. You can cryo treat the crank if you want, but you'll probably snap the block at the intermediate shaft from high HP before the crank goes.

Doing Megasquirt on  the old 16v engines is a bit more involved than just buying the $150 MS1 kit. You need to build a wiring harness and create from scratch a new fuel system for the car with custom components (only component you can reuse is the fuelpump. everything else including the where the injectors go into the manifold has to be replaced). 3/4s of the money I spent on the MS2 setup on my old 16v was on the fuel system. Trying to save a buck with ebay stuff will just send your car up in flames. If you're patient you can sometimes find some good parts off of the classifieds on Vortex that someone just wants to unload.

To run an 02a in a mk1 you either need to do what rotundapig did in his GTI and run the clutch mechanizim on the transmission from a eurovan (02a transmission that used a clutch cable) and a CRX clutch cable (eurovan one is too long and has the wrong end for the pedal. Oddly enough a honda one works), or get really good at metal fabrication. You'll need it because you'll have to build a hodgepodge system from both the B3 and A1 pedals and MC system along with hand built metal bracketry. You'll still need to buy custom mounts or fabricate new ones to mount the transmission.
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 09:23:10 AM »

or get really good at metal fabrication. You'll need it because you'll have to build a hodgepodge system from both the B3 and A1 pedals and MC system along with hand built metal bracketry. You'll still need to buy custom mounts or fabricate new ones to mount the transmission.

If you want to go this route I can help you out with the fabrication of bracketry and mounts. Just need dimensions.
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2011, 06:53:23 PM »

or get really good at metal fabrication. You'll need it because you'll have to build a hodgepodge system from both the B3 and A1 pedals and MC system along with hand built metal bracketry. You'll still need to buy custom mounts or fabricate new ones to mount the transmission.

If you want to go this route I can help you out with the fabrication of bracketry and mounts. Just need dimensions.

that would be great thanks. and as far as my motor build and swap goes i have 2 16vs. one is a 1.8 16v and the other is a 2.0 9a. my 4 dr is going to recieve the 1.8 16v because itll be my daily driver. the 2.0 9a im building to boost one day but ive decided that my daily 4 dr will have plenty of power for what its going to be... a daily driver. im looking for a 2 door GTI for a resonable price that i can build up and actually make a beast. The o2a, 9a, and my sciraccio discs are going to go into the 2 door... when i have the money and can find a fair deal. i know that there is a 2 door shell that somone in the club is selling but i need a title. right now im just trying to find out if i should use the stock CIS basic and just run the car with my knock ignition ive pieced together and my sciracco intake or use the CIS- e that i have for the 1.8... ive been leaning toward the cis basic because my car already has it set up and all i need to do is the small amount of wiring and drop the motor in.

Any thoughts? Im open to ideas. Remember... this is going to be my daily... just freshened up with new brakes, suspension and a low mile 16v
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 08:52:35 AM »

Ive been busy making money and then spending it on new toys so ive neglected the 4dr... ::)
I have a parts car ive set up to buy but the guy always seems to busy so its hard to say when I'll get it. Has blue interior with straght body panels so im gonna strip it and straighten my damage from my minor wreck last year. I was planning on restoring the interior with the original burgundy but i found a set of blue Helios power Recaros so i think im going to utilize the blue carpet and andterior pieces and have Helios interior.

Here is a pic of the front seats. I also have the rear seats.  8)
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 09:02:07 AM »

Just turbo an ABA head on a JH bottom end, you'll have fun! ;)
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 09:13:01 AM »

Haha maybe...  ;) im probably trading my bug for a mk1 vert and putting my 16 v in it and the 8v in the vert will go in the 4dr.
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2012, 05:41:50 PM »

Anyone know if a cabby rear seat will fit in a 4dr? Found a blue helios cabby rear seat but i dont know if itll fit. I imagine it would.   
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 05:56:52 PM »

Anyone know if a cabby rear seat will fit in a 4dr? Found a blue helios cabby rear seat but i dont know if itll fit. I imagine it would.

I believe it will. MkI lego's.
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Re: 84 mk1 4dr rabbit build
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2012, 07:24:16 PM »

If you need a motor, let me know.  I've got a 9a that I won't be using.
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