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Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« on: October 18, 2010, 11:16:33 PM »

Is this event going to happen this year? I checked the regional section and haven't really found any talk about it.

Lets get some events picking back up.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 06:51:17 AM »

this was posted on the tex.  Baker and metrosexual Dubs put that event on far as I know.

"Correct. Baker was banned from Tynan's property after filing false claims under for warranty work and VOA kicked them all back to the dealership, who had to pony up the cash. So, he lost the location and title sponsor. Emich wont touch him because of the stunt he pulled at Bug In, so that location/sponsor was out too. "


Not sure what "stunt" he pulled at Bug In but it sounds like he's facing some legal issues because of it.  He was a douchebag 10 years ago and he's still a douchbag. 
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 07:36:55 AM »

lmao, how do you file a false claim for warranty work?
and now I am curious about what happened at Bug-in.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 01:05:27 PM »

Hmm someone should donate their pad and we will have a last bbq of the year and drive or something... One last chance to rock your setup before converting for winter.

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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 01:19:10 PM »

We could do something at one of the parks in town or at gog? 

Wonder what happened at bugin, who was there? 
Doesn't he work for a Vw dlr, was it tynans?
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 01:20:29 PM »

We could do something at one of the parks in town or at gog? 

Wonder what happened at bugin, who was there? 
Doesn't he work for a Vw dlr, was it tynans?


Baker works for Ford now...
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 01:33:29 PM »

awesome...
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 01:45:33 PM »

Why don't we get together with one of the local breweries and have our own Ocdubber fest? There's a new one up in Woodland park that's been advertising on the radio that might work, or Bristol since they do Busses at the Brewery. If anything, it might be something good for next year.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 04:52:07 PM »

If I were there.. Id suggest drinking and getting something together at bristol breweries
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 05:47:07 AM »

I am curious now too... What the hell did Baker do at Bug-In?


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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 08:08:53 AM »

I am curious now too... What the hell did Baker do at Bug-In?




what he said....
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 09:08:51 AM »

from the few times i met him, i thought he was a tool.  why does he have to be the big fearless leader?  cant someone else contact tynans about doing octdubberfest? 
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 03:20:48 PM »

...because MetroDubs is an LLC chaired by him.  If MD is putting it on,  Baker is putting it on.  If there are issues between Baker and Tynan's, there are issues between MD and Tynans
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 06:12:04 PM »

ah, i see.  this is all something i had no idea about.  how can you make a LLC out of a car club/forum?  does that imply that hes taking a cut somehow from it all?
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 11:23:56 PM »

I am curious now too... What the hell did Baker do at Bug-In?




what he said....

yeah, i kinda ignored it at first...now im curious as well.

About this and the LLC thing
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 05:30:22 AM »

ah, i see.  this is all something i had no idea about.  how can you make a LLC out of a car club/forum?  does that imply that hes taking a cut somehow from it all?

It doesn't mean he's taking a cut from it necessarily. You incorporate things to create an entity that you file taxes under (revenue from club dues, expenditures for club functions like the website, and general money changing), and for protection of its members (if something "happens" people can sue the club vs the members in most cases). Organizing it as an LLC structures itself around him, so others have no say in the club unless he gives it to them. Considering he did the legwork of getting Metrodubs up and going it's understandable . It is very possible he is taking a cut for his time invested and no one would be the wiser.

I am curious now too... What the hell did Baker do at Bug-In?
what he said....
I'm curious too. Who all went to Bug-in this year?
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 09:02:24 AM »

He says he raced a Tiguan that Tynan's let him take to Bug-In, but does not know why there would be any problems  ???
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2010, 02:53:15 PM »

Whatever happened between Baker and Tynans doesnt bother me. Sucks we dont have an Octdubber fest but just gives us the chance to make one. And if we made something in time i put money that Metrodubs would be there.

The only thing i know about is Bakers car blowing up on the way to Wuste and Tynans trying warranty on it.

Big props to Baker for representing E719 in everything that was done for Wuste. Baker did not once mention the word Metrodubs without putting Edition719 in the same sentence. Hell he even dug up some E719 shirts that i didnt even know exsisted for the Wuste photoshoot so that E719 had more members in the photo. Dave can chime in on this one. Not an add or sticker anywhere that said Metrodubs without E719 right beside it.

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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2010, 02:57:12 PM »

That's cool of him. And genious on the LLC.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2010, 07:21:37 PM »

I know some of you may not like him for whatever reason, but he really did have pretty much the sole hand in building up MD. Baker has never steered me wrong and has been more than fair on all of the promotional/joint efforts. If he was off work he supported events.  I dont know what he did with the Tiguan and never heard anything about it.  He also said the first time I ever met him was that he wasnt the "president" or owner of MD. He does run it, him and a few others have it set in stone that Metrodubs is a VW/Audi club, and thats why Union was formed.  I know now he is dealing with people in MD who he and others feel do nothing but stir up crap and spam forums.  Hey if you put in that much time and thats how you want things to run cool on you!  Unlike here where we all talk some smack.

Anyway on topic, Im sure Bob Penkus would support an event 100% if you guys wanted to do it.  Im also sure if someone wanted to hit up Baker he would be rolling in a bowl of joy to do it.

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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 09:08:08 PM »

wait hold the conversation.. .


did you just say "rolling in a bowl of joy"??
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2010, 12:08:04 PM »

Thats Bob Penkus. Many people avoided them at DATR but they stood there and smiled ALL day long. They are all about doing whatever they can (especially if its free) to get people to buy cars. Hell I bet they would even get radio support down there for the event.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2010, 01:24:22 PM »

Sorry for bringing up a dead topic.

The warranty issues between myself and Tynan's VW was a miscommunicati on between me, the service manger and the regional warranty manager. It has been laid to rest after all the facts have been put on the table.

As far as me and Emich goes, I have talked to Fred many of times since the "bug-in" incident. We talked about a future together and everything was moving forward. However, my boss at Tynan's was working at Lakewood Ford and asked me to come and work for him. So, I decided to do that and have succeeded here. Not to worry, I have been considering returning to VW in the near future!! The new Fords are nice, just missing the refinement of the German cars.

None of the above dictated anything about not having Oct'Dubber Fest in 2010. I had several offers from locations that wanted to host this event. The fact of the matter is that by the time I figured out what the plan was, it was too late and I could not get the ball rolling in time.

Finally, if I offended anyone because of my free spirit, willingness to always have as much fun as I can and to keep people safe, I am deeply sorry. I did start MetroDubs.com in July of 2005, went public in September of 2005. Since then we have always been open to all VW & Audi enthusiasts, supporting friends and family, local shops, local shows and even some great nation shows. You can not deny that MetroDubs has put on some of the best yearly events over the past 5 years. Yes MetroDubs is an LLC. the reason for this is to simply give the EIN to sponsors that donate items for our events. The products that MD has ever sold were at cost and ZERO profit for the club, or even me. I have put my hard earned money, sweat and tears into every aspect of MD and I love every minute of it, however stressful and unrewarding. But then again, I never did this to be rewarded or patted on the back or to have any fame. That is why I never say I am "owner" "president" or what ever to any public enthusiasts. I do claim my title when I am talking to potential sponsors or companies that I feel MD and the community would prosper from. With that said, I can assure you there is zero truth that I am keeping any money that the club generates. Any funds are always put forward to stickers, shirts, index cards, water and drinks at events, show sponsorships or web site costs; etc.

I know that I will never please everyone, and I never expect to be best friends with anyone. I do have some great relationships with many in E719, RMCB5 and other clubs in the area, and even beyond. I will always continue to support E719 and DATR, Bug-in and VWOTG. The shows that local clubs and companies produce are the continuance of the great foundations that the clubs and enthusiasts have started. I love shows, and will go to as many as I can!! Look for the glitter, look for the tents, look for more joint events like WusteRallye. We also will be driving down to Colorado Springs in the spring to meet up and hang out at your GTG's. Just because I have always thought of E719, my second home. ;-)

Thank you everyone for reading this. If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please PM me or email me. baker @ metrodubs.com

Finally, look for a better, bigger and more improved Okt'Dubber Fest in 2011. ;-)
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2010, 03:18:47 PM »

Good to hear that the show hasn't gone away. :t-up: We'll be having another spring BBQ next year so we should try and coordinate your drive down with it.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »

absolutly!!!! I am also very excited for DATR this year!!! so many great things are going to happen in 2011.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »

Sorry for bringing up a dead topic.

The warranty issues between myself and Tynan's VW was a miscommunicati on between me, the service manger and the regional warranty manager. It has been laid to rest after all the facts have been put on the table.

As far as me and Emich goes, I have talked to Fred many of times since the "bug-in" incident. We talked about a future together and everything was moving forward. However, my boss at Tynan's was working at Lakewood Ford and asked me to come and work for him. So, I decided to do that and have succeeded here. Not to worry, I have been considering returning to VW in the near future!! The new Fords are nice, just missing the refinement of the German cars.

None of the above dictated anything about not having Oct'Dubber Fest in 2010. I had several offers from locations that wanted to host this event. The fact of the matter is that by the time I figured out what the plan was, it was too late and I could not get the ball rolling in time.

Finally, if I offended anyone because of my free spirit, willingness to always have as much fun as I can and to keep people safe, I am deeply sorry. I did start MetroDubs.com in July of 2005, went public in September of 2005. Since then we have always been open to all VW & Audi enthusiasts, supporting friends and family, local shops, local shows and even some great nation shows. You can not deny that MetroDubs has put on some of the best yearly events over the past 5 years. Yes MetroDubs is an LLC. the reason for this is to simply give the EIN to sponsors that donate items for our events. The products that MD has ever sold were at cost and ZERO profit for the club, or even me. I have put my hard earned money, sweat and tears into every aspect of MD and I love every minute of it, however stressful and unrewarding. But then again, I never did this to be rewarded or patted on the back or to have any fame. That is why I never say I am "owner" "president" or what ever to any public enthusiasts. I do claim my title when I am talking to potential sponsors or companies that I feel MD and the community would prosper from. With that said, I can assure you there is zero truth that I am keeping any money that the club generates. Any funds are always put forward to stickers, shirts, index cards, water and drinks at events, show sponsorships or web site costs; etc.

I know that I will never please everyone, and I never expect to be best friends with anyone. I do have some great relationships with many in E719, RMCB5 and other clubs in the area, and even beyond. I will always continue to support E719 and DATR, Bug-in and VWOTG. The shows that local clubs and companies produce are the continuance of the great foundations that the clubs and enthusiasts have started. I love shows, and will go to as many as I can!! Look for the glitter, look for the tents, look for more joint events like WusteRallye. We also will be driving down to Colorado Springs in the spring to meet up and hang out at your GTG's. Just because I have always thought of E719, my second home. ;-)

Thank you everyone for reading this. If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please PM me or email me. baker @ metrodubs.com

Finally, look for a better, bigger and more improved Okt'Dubber Fest in 2011. ;-)

My name is Todd, and i approve this message.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2010, 09:02:09 AM »

I have a buddy who works at tynans and he told me something different.. Strange  ???
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2010, 09:44:10 AM »

Chad,

I am sorry your friend is giving you false information. I am sure if he was in the meeting between the managers and myself, or was included in the phone calls that the GM and I had, he would have told you the same that I just did.

Secondly, I am sorry that you are getting slack on vortex about your hand picked members club. Seems that running a club with all the rejects of the area is going well for you.

Now please stay out of my thread.

Respectfully,
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2010, 10:18:49 AM »



My club's bigger than yours.  ;D People can say bad things about all clubs in the Colorado area. If you have anything to say about E719 please feel free to voice it here or on your sites, but don't go bashing each other here. Save it for your forums.

Baker had some shit go on with a VW dealership. If it's resolved, great! If not, who cares? Doesn't affect me or you one bit, only Baker. Stirring up shit that isn't yours generally nets you the title of drama queen.
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2010, 10:58:57 AM »



My club's bigger than yours.  ;D People can say bad things about all clubs in the Colorado area. If you have anything to say about E719 please feel free to voice it here or on your sites, but don't go bashing each other here. Save it for your forums.

Baker had some shit go on with a VW dealership. If it's resolved, great! If not, who cares? Doesn't affect me or you one bit, only Baker. Stirring up shit that isn't yours generally nets you the title of drama queen.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2010, 03:35:03 PM »

Seems that running a club with all the rejects of the area is going well for you.

Wow
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2010, 04:29:37 PM »

If you have anything to say about E719 please feel free to voice it here


Correction....


PM me with your negativity, and I'll be sure to kick you off the site personally...


One of my biggest complaints 5 years ago was from the drama that people stirred up over FUCKING CLUB BULLSHIT.

We are all VW/Audi enthusiasts, right???

If you don't like Peter or Paul because they fucked that slut girlfriend of yours in the alley at a gtg, then fine.... don't log into their sites....


Do not however bring the internet tough guy syndrome here.

Well.... bring it and shit talk, but be prepared to do it in person as well.


Baker.... you know man.... I respect you for who you are and the things you did to make the CO vw scene a better place when I lived there. You also know you have a place to stay in Maryland. (The real fucking MD bitch)  ;D I was just trying to clear the air with any misinformation that gets spread on the rumor-mill that is vortex....


Chad... I don't know you, but I'd probably be venturing to say you were following in the footsteps of Selander and Melander.... Both great guys IMO, but with personal agendas.... Or so I have noticed through this magical box called the internet.

Either way... talk shit to each other.... it's funny.... but dont try to drag the guys in Colorado Springs into the Denver drama.


Thanks!


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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2010, 06:55:28 PM »

Sniff sniff.. I love you Barry.  ;D
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2010, 04:47:04 AM »

I love support that clubs bring to the scene... but jesus christ! Why is there so much Drama??

Anyhow Baker, Im glad the dealership stuff panned out for you, you need to just focus on getting that Jetta a little quicker ;)

SO back the original topic, Im sure if you guys talk to one of the local COS VW dealers, they will be interested in helping to host the VW BBQ. Why just limit it to people that chat on forums?  I say make it free but bring more people into it.  You never know when you will pick up more potential enthusiasts or even people who HAD a negative vibe from 719 who might like the crowd now?   


Anyway... I look forward to the second half of show season in 2011 and I hope we are able to get a drive to MD down for that "other" VW show they have up there.
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2010, 09:24:47 AM »

LOL I wasnt starting any drama..

Im im just going to hold my tongue on that rejects comment Baker cause i believe all of my banned members are the only 3 active members md has. thats all im saying and im not posting again in this thread because i respect e719 and their group. People will never 100% get along and thats a part of life but I hope someday all of us can get together and have a good time, this isnt compton so we dont need a "gang war" and i never bashed you or your site so i dont understand why im being attacked
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2010, 09:32:11 AM »

Chad, nobody said you were bashing THIS one.  ::D
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2010, 09:52:16 AM »

dont try to drag the guys in Colorado Springs into the Denver drama.

agreed. 
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Re: Oct 'Dubber Fest 2010.. Whats the deal?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2010, 10:07:21 AM »

Seeing there will be nothing else productive to the OP, Im just going to lock this one.
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