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[Tek-Nic]

A little at a time is the only way these days.
I really hope that some day I can just call up and order everything my heart desires.

Maybe even an extra block for the back seat. It's lonely back there.

[Barry]

oh... and brandon was mad about his S/C because he had a little V9 on his car....


Bolt up a V1, with a 15LB pulley, and I garuntee you won't be disappointed.. ..

[sad_rocc]

I have nothing to add other than 666 smites, nicely done!

[brandonb85]

I wasnt mad with my V9.. It still pulls hard as hell. 10.2 psi. And that is the only charger that will fit without modifying the mk4 bay.

Centrifugal chargers are weak compared to turbo's regardless. Doesnt matter if you have a v1,v2,v9 ect..

Roots is another story

[mikeminnillo]

With your talks of making big power (new dude, not Barry), have you considered the potential of beefing up the bottom end to handle the extra boost? My understanding is that if you're wanting to push about 12+ paid, that stuff needs to be reinforced.

[Tek-Nic]

Baby steps, but yes... The bottom end will be one of them.

[mikeminnillo]

B, I'm glad you mentioned roots type blowers. Have you looked into doing it on a 12v? Fucking nuts. Apparently there was some company that built just a few prototype kits about 10 years ago, but that's it. It would be an awesome idea, though.

[Barry]

When it comes to superchargers. ...


Centrifugal > Roots any day of the week....



And yes.... I worked hard for my 666 smites... Might as well give me one more for saying mkIV's suck.


12 lbs of boost is the very maximum you should push on a VR with stock compression Mike. With a headspacer and water methanol injection, you should be able to push 15 - 20 on a daily basis with no problem. 20+ is when you need to keep a benchstock of fresh bottom ends, or just build a bottom end for lower compression.

[LOS]

Teknic, evaluate what you want out of it.  If you aren't going big hp, piece together a kit, get a good turbo and be happy with it.  Make sure the software is good and the fueling is enough though.

And just for shits and giggles... Not all S/C owners are unhappy with their set up, matter of fact I'm pretty happy with mine.  But then again I'm in a different mindset... I didn't want to worry about tuning, boost spikes and pretty much immediate need for clutch, lsd, etc.  I wanted smooth power delivery, and the extra headaches that can come from turbo kits.  I'm still on my og clutch and the car runs pretty damn good as well as its been totally reliable.  Now a days the turbo kits are alot more reliable but not too long ago that wasn't the case.  Now I have had the standard water pump pulley failure and a couple little hiccups, but with anything you modify there are some risks.

Brandon, I think you are not as happy because of the s/c unit you have... that v9 blower just maxes out quick and doesn't put out as much power as the v1 or v2.  You upgraded the pulley and dropped alot of money into that set up so I can understand your apprehension.

Just my 2 cents. LOL

[brandonb85]

Agreed with Los..

When i did supercharge my car is was my daily. I wanted clean reliable power. So i went the s/c route. But now having it as a car i drive one every three months i wish i had more power for the money i spent.

[Tek-Nic]

I wanted smooth power delivery, and the extra headaches that can come from turbo kits. 

I want bonkers delivery, with the headaches too. We'll see if I can truly figure out a way to fund such a project.

[oliver]

12psi on an intercooled kinetic's like setup is fun for a daily driver, but if you are planning on going over 300hp down the road just get the better & bigger turbo and a couple more loads of cash because you will be replacing stuff quite often.   My buddy kevin of tomas sports tuning built a 575hp mk2 vr turbo and he replaces axles every week.... over 300hp on a fwd car is only fun on a straight line.

Here's my old ride






Kinetics kit trim
9:5:1 compression
Arp headbolts
Intercooler
walhbro fuel pump

[LOS]

I wanted smooth power delivery, and the extra headaches that can come from turbo kits. 

I want bonkers delivery, with the headaches too. We'll see if I can truly figure out a way to fund such a project.

That was a typo... I was trying to avoid headaches. 
If you want bonkers delivery, then be prepared to get an lsd, high dollar clutch, a spare block in garage on the stand, spare tranny, and as Oliver said... plenty of axles.  Over 300hp to the wheels is not fwd friendly.