Print

[0ifhax]

the storm 2 looks the same as the original, but it has a faster proccessor. I have the storm and love it, but do with it was a bit faster, so the 2 looks like a contender to me... but im switching to the droid for the simple fact that i dont want to pay an extra 30 bucks a month to have my emails go to my phone...

The storm 2 has an improved touchscreen with electromechani cal pressure sensors at each corner to replace the single button under the screen and also adds mutli-touch capabilities. It also has double the RAM and wifi. Other than that it has the same guts. It's an improvement on the original much like that of the iPhone when it went from the 2G to the 3G model.

Going to the Droid won't fix the $30 data plan (not just for emails). Any smart phone, whether it's a WinMo, Blackberry or Android, requires at least the $30 data plan. You use to be able to get a smart phone with a pay as you go data plan that didn't have a monthly fee, but VZW doesn't offer it anymore.

The original storm has multi touch, just no apps use it.

[Scott]

except that you have to sign up for a mandatory 30 a month data plan which they say is "unlimited", but is actualy limited to 5Gb a month... I was looking at going to it so i could save some money and drop my blackberry service, but that wont save me shit.... Oh, and if you want to use an exchange service, that 30 plan will cost you 45...

It is only limited to 5 gigs per month if you use it as a tethered device, if you are using the phone as a data terminal it IS unlimited, an I more than proved that one to be true.  When I was in Arizona, I downloaded more than 120 gigs worth of TV shows to the SD card on my phone over a 6 week period, and my bill was the same price. 

[Scott]

by the way, ordering online on a Friday SUCKS... no Saturday delivery, so now I have to wait until Monday!

[0ifhax]

except that you have to sign up for a mandatory 30 a month data plan which they say is "unlimited", but is actualy limited to 5Gb a month... I was looking at going to it so i could save some money and drop my blackberry service, but that wont save me shit.... Oh, and if you want to use an exchange service, that 30 plan will cost you 45...

It is only limited to 5 gigs per month if you use it as a tethered device, if you are using the phone as a data terminal it IS unlimited, an I more than proved that one to be true.  When I was in Arizona, I downloaded more than 120 gigs worth of TV shows to the SD card on my phone over a 6 week period, and my bill was the same price. 

I dont see how that is possible, Verizon only see's that your device is downloading data, not that it is teethered. Oh, btw, the droid does not support teethering yet. It will, but only in a few months or if you hack it.

[Barry]

Problem with Verizon is that in a year, the Droid will be obsolete... They will have some new piece of shit that can't compare to the iPhone...


I bought the Dare when it first came out (about a year ago).... The Verizon store doesn't even offer it as a new phone anymore... They only stock re-furb's for guys like me that break thier phones...

[Smokestack]

Problem with Verizon is that in a year, the Droid will be obsolete... They will have some new piece of shit that can't compare to the iPhone...


I bought the Dare when it first came out (about a year ago).... The Verizon store doesn't even offer it as a new phone anymore... They only stock re-furb's for guys like me that break thier phones...

Iphone 2G -> 3G -> 3GS. Apple/AT&T does the same thing. They phase out old models when they release new ones every year. That's how all of the carriers attract new customers and gouge out the wallets (even more) of their current customers.

[brandonb85]

Off topic but Apple's contract with AT&T runs out in 2010...
 
Then hopefully verizon will figure out their shit with a sim so us verizon customers can rock an iphone..

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2009/10/verizon_still_w.html

Droid is looking like an awesome device.. I just hate motorola products. I would have to say that the android side of it coming from google is the only thing saving this handset. I cant wait to see em in a couple weeks when people start dunking them in liquids for me to clean  

[LOS]

I bet verizon still wont get the iPhone. LOL I bet T-Mobile gets the iPhone next.

[brandonb85]

t-mobile probably wont worry about it since dev-team cracks every firmware apple releases for network locks

[vdub303]

I work for at&t and i can tell you that Verizon is not getting the iphone. Have you guys seen the new Verizon commercials? Verizon completly bashes the iphone so Verizon customers can forget about getting the iphone.

Verizon wants too much control over their devices and apple doesnt
roll that way. Apple didnt even give at&t permission to brand the phone.
Look at an iphone does it say at&t anywhere?

[Scott]

I work for at&t and i can tell you that Verizon is not getting the iphone. Have you guys seen the new Verizon commercials? Verizon completly bashes the iphone so Verizon customers can forget about getting the iphone.

Verizon wants too much control over their devices and apple doesnt
roll that way. Apple didnt even give at&t permission to brand the phone.
Look at an iphone does it say at&t anywhere?

ummm, odds are you are probably wrong... Apple is going to go where the customers are and Verizon has a VASTLY superior data network, so why would Apple not want to partner with them?  If you think some product specific marketing to sell a single device is going to keep Apple away from Verizon, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.  I still won't but an iPhone even if you paid me to take it, my Droid is freaking awesome and I am sure it will get nothing but better as developers get their hands on it.

[Smokestack]

From what I see, most of the VZW commercials are bashing the network that the iPhone is on. The original "iDon't" commercial did bash the iPhone only to the extent of showing that it isn't as perfect as everyone says it is.

Originally Apple went to Verizon first with the iPhone. They ran into problems when neither company wanted to relinquish control of the software in the handset. The struggling AT&T was more than happy to bend to Apple's will just to get the business it needed to stay alive. For the iPhone to really shine it needs the VZW network. Up until recently VZW has had some lackluster handsets (really, only time will tell with the new Android sets and the latest Blackberry sets) and could use the iPhone to increase sales. Having the iPhone would really round out VZWs phone lineup by having a geek/techy phone (Android), a business oriented phone (Blackberry), and a fun phone that the masses can understand (iPhone).

Scott, did you get the Motorola Droid or the HTC Droid Eris? I gotta say that I'm not a huge fan of the naming scheme they've devised for the Android devices, regardless of how cool the phones are. Anyways, how's the typing on the keyboards (touch and physical keyboard)? One of these days I'll head into the VZW store (hopefully before my 30 days is up just in case) and check out one of the new droid phones out for myself, but I'm in no rush because I'm really happy with my Storm 2. I'm also really excited about this phone because RIM finally released APIs for the GPU and OpenGL support as well as announced Flash support for their browser for Q1 of 2010. It's looking to be some fun times for Java based smartphones.

[Scott]

Scott, did you get the Motorola Droid or the HTC Droid Eris? I gotta say that I'm not a huge fan of the naming scheme they've devised for the Android devices, regardless of how cool the phones are. Anyways, how's the typing on the keyboards (touch and physical keyboard)?

I got the Moto Droid, and the vertical (virtual) keyboard is a bit funky, but I learned how to offset my finger just enough to make it pretty accurate.  The physical keyboard is a bit flat, but after a few times of using it, I got used to it. My old phone had an AWESOME keyboard, but this one is perfectly acceptable.   

The only real problem I have had so far is with the camera application freaking out and quitting on me about 5 times.

I tried a few free apps, and most of them were great, but one kept crashing so I dumped it.   My only real complaint is the SHITTY voice they chose for the navigation app, it sounds like something from 1979. 

[Smokestack]

I tried a few free apps, and most of them were great, but one kept crashing so I dumped it.   My only real complaint is the SHITTY voice they chose for the navigation app, it sounds like something from 1979. 

Like HAL9000 1979 or early text to speech 1979? I think a HAL voice would be cool. "I'm sorry Dave, I can't take you there." I'd probably bust out laughing every time it'd say "computing". Hopefully it wouldn't try to kill me.

[brandonb85]

Pwnd



Reading on the iPhone FTL

[Smokestack]

What changes would Verizon need to make on their network for the iPhone? I would figure it'd be more on Apple to add the chipset needed to work on the CDMA network and possibly add in LTE/4G support. Maybe server side software integration/communication with iTunes/AppStore?

[Barry]

He said he works for AT&T....


Maybe you should READ before you post!

[brandonb85]

Fixed.... Thought he said verizon

[LOS]

I got no qualms with my network. I've had AT&T for 10 years now and I'll say I have no qualms with them.
Verizon hinders their phones too much in my experience and like I said before, Im really fuckin happy w/ my iPhone.  Amy used to love her blackberry until she started playing with my iPhone.  She has an iPhone now.

[Scott]

I got no qualms with my network. I've had AT&T for 10 years now and I'll say I have no qualms with them.
Verizon hinders their phones too much in my experience and like I said before, Im really fuckin happy w/ my iPhone.  Amy used to love her blackberry until she started playing with my iPhone.  She has an iPhone now.

Yeah, AT&T has a very solid network, especially in Colorado.  If you look at the entire nation though, Verizon KILLS them on both voice and data, it is not even close!

I am not saying the iPhone is a bad device, it is in fact very, very, very cool but the prohibition from playing flash video and the requirement of messing with iTunes... that is enough to keep me away.  I am also not a fan of following the crowd just because the crowd said it was cool. 

The Droid does have some issues, but I am quite happy learning how to work around them... I may hate it in 6 months, but right now it is getting the job done on all fronts.

[sad_rocc]

[Scott]

that is kinda funny!