Topic: Where can I find Amsoil or Royal Purple 5w40? (Read 1301 times)

TheVR · « **on:** May 31, 2009, 10:52:13 AM »

Hi all, just wondering where i can buy some Amsoil or Royal Purple 5w40 around town? As I understand it the parts store don't sell them. A little help.. thanx

101stvet · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:08:47 AM »

I know on FT.Carson they sell royal purple in several weights but not sure if they carry what ya looking for but somewhere to look i'll be on post later today i'll swing by and see if they have what your looking for

Southcross · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2009, 12:32:18 PM »

Pepboys, the "larger" Checker, and NAPA carry it

armydub01 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2009, 02:25:17 PM »

amsoil you have to get through a dealer the guy i get mine from is in fountain dudes name is don and the number is 719 634 6222,

TheVR · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2009, 02:40:03 PM »

ok thanx peoples. I was under the understanding none of those places carries them. Go take a look. Anyone partial to one of them? I've been pretty satisfied with the Royal Purple in the past, I've heard good things bout Amsoil, maybe it the new oil hotness, and i think it's a bit cheaper.. thanx anyways

jonbaker · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2009, 02:53:08 PM »

there is a place in denver called On Track Performance. they have RP.

lpshade · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2009, 05:30:20 PM »

I think MileHighAssass in on here is an Amsoil dealer. Send him a PM

Barry · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:19:24 PM »

yeah... I am an Amsoil nutswinger myself... switched over to it on all 4 of my cars, and love it.... engine noise decreased on all 4 motors (5.0L, Toyota 3.4L, VR, and 2.0L 16V)

You can buy it from the guy in Fountain, or Milehigh, or you can PM Juan (RSR32) since he has a good hookup.... or you can just buy the dealer license from Amsol for like $35, and then get everything to your door for a discounted price for a year....

armydub01 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2009, 06:56:04 PM »

you know how i stand dude amsoil has beat out many of the top oils in an independent test but dont take my word for it its all there and the thing about rp is i went on their web page and couldnt find any test data out side of the guys on hot rod tv saying its good, amsoil its proven to you in the specs dude we have seen 10% millage in every car we have it in so millage means less friction which is also more power, plus its nice changing my oil every 7500 miles with the mobil 1 filter. and as far as filters mobil 1 and k&n are 10 to 12 micron the amsoil is like 12 to 15 and fram is like 30 ish. if you want I'll see if i can find where that amsoil test was or im sure it on their web page good luck dude

TheVR · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:12:19 PM »

Quote from: GotMyDub on May 31, 2009, 06:19:24 PM

yeah... I am an Amsoil nutswinger myself...

no good sir.. this is a "nutswinger" ----> armydub01.. your woman must love when u talk about dirty to her bout microns and filthy, nasty oil filters. You playboy you. haha

haha hammy you know i had say something, i couldnt let that slide.. i bet u didnt stutter once too.

hey p.s. wanna buy my rc's? so you can get some "real" wheels. i'll hook it up since i fuck with you constantly, bump me down a few spots on your "list". hit u up tomorow.

RSR32 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:22:35 PM »

yah ..i dont exactly have hookups..but i can get it for like 6 90 per qt...amsoil that is.

it is pretty damn good

i LIVE by the stuff....

i think it is way better......

than any other oil out there....that is the only thing that has touched my R32 since 30k...and it has 75k now....religio usly every 5000 miles...even though it still shows very little dirt in it.

Southcross · « **Reply #11 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:33:34 AM »

there were some studies on the RP website a few years ago, they're not there any more? I've been torn between RP (has been my first choice) and Lucas.

Southcross · « **Reply #12 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:39:36 AM »

ahhh... I think I found out why... RP got challanged that the only info on their website was customer "testimonial" and no actual scientific tests, AND, false claims to be "API/ILSAC Certified"
http://www.imakenews.com/lng/e_article001398592.cfm?x=b11,0,w

Nevermind! I'm going Lucas
Article on the Lucas website:
http://www.enhancedsyntheticoil.com/Royal_Purple_vs_AMSOIL.htm

MileHighAssassin · « **Reply #13 on:** June 01, 2009, 09:00:08 AM »

I can help you out with the Amsoil. I sell it and I will give it to your for my cost. Amsoil has several different 5w40 oils. Make, model, year and motor would help. I can see what they recommend.

Or if you have a specific Amsoil oil in mind, let me know.

Southcross · « **Reply #14 on:** June 01, 2009, 10:36:11 AM »

interesting... Oil Analysis reports for Mobile 1 5-30 and Amsoil 5-30:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/amsoil.html

For those of us with "aged" motors... Amsoil has 20% more zinc than Mobile1, according to these tests, Zinc is a friction modifier and a "good" thing for us

LOS · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:45:14 AM »

Ive run Mobil 1 in my GTI since I got it. Nothin against Amsoil, but Im perfectly happy w/ my mobil 1. It does just fine, and considering I change the oil in my car once a year (it really only sees 5K max in that year) it seems like a waste of money to go w/ the more expensive stuff (amsoil).

Southcross · « **Reply #16 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:55:05 AM »

Quote from: LOS on June 01, 2009, 11:45:14 AM

Ive run Mobil 1 in my GTI since I got it. Nothin against Amsoil, but Im perfectly happy w/ my mobil 1. It does just fine, and considering I change the oil in my car once a year (it really only sees 5K max in that year) it seems like a waste of money to go w/ the more expensive stuff (amsoil).

if you read the reports on the two.. they are about neck and neck, the Amsoil really shined on the longer change interval. The extra Zinc in Amsoil is a definate anit-wear bonus, especially if you like to romp on the engine

TheVR · « **Reply #17 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:57:10 AM »

i was looking to get the european blend. if i'll prob just go to napa or something. whats the retail on amsoil?

Southcross · « **Reply #18 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:59:08 AM »

Quote from: TheVR on June 01, 2009, 11:57:10 AM

i was looking to get the european blend. if i'll prob just go to napa or something. whats the retail on amsoil?

I've only seen RP at NAPA $:-\$ sorry, I should have been more specific... but, call around, I bet its out there

TheVR · « **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2009, 12:05:48 PM »

ooo gotcha. no probs. yea if anything i'll talk to one of these guys on here.. how quick can i get it? amsoil?

LOS · « **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2009, 01:26:05 PM »

Quote from: Southcross on June 01, 2009, 11:55:05 AM

Quote from: LOS on June 01, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
Ive run Mobil 1 in my GTI since I got it. Nothin against Amsoil, but Im perfectly happy w/ my mobil 1. It does just fine, and considering I change the oil in my car once a year (it really only sees 5K max in that year) it seems like a waste of money to go w/ the more expensive stuff (amsoil).
if you read the reports on the two.. they are about neck and neck, the Amsoil really shined on the longer change interval. The extra Zinc in Amsoil is a definate anit-wear bonus, especially if you like to romp on the engine

Yeah I read it and the funny thing is I dont put that many miles on mine in a year so where the amsoil shined, I wouldn't really be using it. That article also said the oil was getting thicker w/ the amsoil, so the weight was changing from the 5w30 to 5/40, then 15w40 or something like that. I run 10w30 in my vr and dont want it getting thicker as it will cause more heat (vr's already run hot enough!)
Lastly, mobil 1 is listed on the vw approved motor oil list for the vr6 engine, where as amsoil is not. Not that my car has warranty anymore but vw kept the additives and cleaners in mind when approving/recommending a specific oil.

Again, nothing against amsoil, it seems like a good oil, but for an off the shelf synthetic.. mobil 1 works just fine for me. Ive used it for many years, and from everything I read, I'll continue to use it.

Southcross · « **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:23:10 PM »

I understand the "off the shelf" sentiment, and being "VW Spec'd for the VR6", I'm only slightly weary of the lack of specific additives in Mobile1 proven to extend the life of flat tappet engines. The only oils that Mobile Spec's for the earlier VW engines isn't even synthetic, its their "MobileClean" line of traditional oils, and even they are lacking friction modifiers

formulanerd · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:31:19 PM »

reguardless, i'll take a group IV (ams) over a group III (mobile) any day.

mobile 1 is fine if you're changing at short intervals (3 or 5k) but in my experience costs as much or more than amsoil.

also, amsoil is vw cert for 502.00, 505.00, 505.01.

armydub01 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:36:42 PM »

call that dude, then just roll out to his house and get your shit, the other thing i read the other day was that the k&n oil filter uses a resin to get to the 10 to 12 micron leave, so people were having trouble burning up oil pumps, cause your trying to suck it through that resin

formulanerd · « **Reply #24 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:48:20 PM »

sounds like k&n air filters that destroy your maf.

Southcross · « **Reply #25 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:54:45 PM »

If you want "real" oil filtration... buy a Canton Oil Filter... 8 micron filtration cartridges and last 3x longer than our spin-ons

http://www.cmfilters.com/remote.cfm

LOS · « **Reply #26 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:55:20 PM »

Quote from: formulanerd on June 01, 2009, 02:31:19 PM

reguardless, i'll take a group IV (ams) over a group III (mobile) any day.

mobile 1 is fine if you're changing at short intervals (3 or 5k) but in my experience costs as much or more than amsoil.

also, amsoil is vw cert for 502.00, 505.00, 505.01.

Can you explain group IV and group III? Not familiar w/ the term...

formulanerd · « **Reply #27 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:36:05 AM »

Group I base stocks are composed of fractionally distilled petroleum which is further refined with solvent extraction processes to improve certain properties such as oxidation resistance and to remove wax.

Group II base stocks are composed of fractionally distilled petroleum that has been hydrocracked to further refine and purify it.

Group III base stocks are composed of fractionally distilled petroleum that has been hydrocracked to further refine and purify it. Group III base stocks have higher viscosity indexes. Group III base stocks are produced by further hydrocracking of Group II base stocks, or of hydroisomerize d slack wax, (a byproduct of the dewaxing process).

Group IV base stock are polyalphaolefi ns (PAOs).

in many countries it isn't permitted to market mobile 1 (a Group III) oil a synthetic, because its a blatant lie..... why mobile 1 can charge more for an oil that isnt a true synthetic, i'm not sure.

Southcross · « **Reply #28 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:17:52 PM »

interesting... III is just "premium of the premium" mineral based oils? Where as normal "conventional" oils are II or I? How does Mobile1 get away with calling themself a "synthetic"?

LOS · « **Reply #29 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:05:03 PM »

I bet they aren't the only "synthetic' that goes by that term then.
How do you find out what group they are? Does it say so on the bottle?

Smokestack · « **Reply #30 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:20:37 PM »

Quote from: formulanerd on June 01, 2009, 02:31:19 PM

also, amsoil is vw cert for 502.00, 505.00, 505.01.

Amsoil is not certified by VW. It probably would pass all of the tests, but Amsoil won't pay VW for the certification process.

I've attached the most recent approved oil list from VWoA if anyone's interested

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Southcross · « **Reply #31 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:21:40 PM »

Quote from: LOS on June 02, 2009, 02:05:03 PM

I bet they aren't the only "synthetic' that goes by that term then.
How do you find out what group they are? Does it say so on the bottle?

looking right now... its apparently the API (who makes the certifications for oil) that keeps the "list"/breakdown of Groups:
More Wiki info:

Quote

Groups I and II are commonly referred to as mineral oils, group III is typically referred to as synthetic (except in Germany and Japan, where they must not be called synthetic) and group IV is a synthetic oil. Group V base oils are so diverse that there is no catch-all description.

Southcross · « **Reply #32 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:29:29 PM »

having no luck finding a "list", it appears that API wants to "sell" their data and not make it publicly available

Info on the good 'ol Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil

MileHighAssassin · « **Reply #33 on:** June 02, 2009, 05:32:33 PM »

Quote from: Smokestack on June 02, 2009, 02:20:37 PM

Quote from: formulanerd on June 01, 2009, 02:31:19 PM
also, amsoil is vw cert for 502.00, 505.00, 505.01.

Amsoil is not certified by VW. It probably would pass all of the tests, but Amsoil won't pay VW for the certification process.

I've attached the most recent approved oil list from VWoA if anyone's interested

Well, they are not 505.01 certified.

FTR the testing process costs around $2,000,000 total when it is all said and done. That is the biggest reason Amsoil will not pay for it. It is easy for Exxon/Mobil, ELF, etc to pay this money, they are huge companies, amsoil is not. Amsoil does warranty their oil. If it causes a problem, they will cover the repair, of course there are stipulations, you must have the oil tested, etc....

In my PD TDI (requires 505.01) I have ran, Motul, Elf, Castrol and Amsoil. Amsoil tested better than all of them. i will see if I can find my UOA's for each.

MileHighAssassin · « **Reply #34 on:** June 02, 2009, 05:38:45 PM »

Quote from: Southcross on June 01, 2009, 02:54:45 PM

If you want "real" oil filtration... buy a Canton Oil Filter... 8 micron filtration cartridges and last 3x longer than our spin-ons
http://www.cmfilters.com/remote.cfm

These do not "filter 8 microns". They filter DOWN to 8 microns. Big difference.

They sound like great filter but I really don't know enough about them to comment any further. I don't see any test results on their site. These filters are also "remote system" meaning it is secondary system. When adding a secondary system, make sure you can maintain oil pressure at proper levels.

not trying to be biased but the Amsoil EaA filters are tough to beat:
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx

Filters 15 microns at 98.7% efficiency, that is the best for an OEM replacement filter on the market.

TheVR · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2009, 02:00:58 AM »

well i went with the amsoil 5w40 euro formula.. called the guy that armydub posted up top. Good guy, old guy runs it with his wife, has a hanger out back with anything you could want.

sleeper bug · « **Reply #36 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:06:06 PM »

i found a dealer in fountain sells 5w40. if you want to know where just call me. i dont have the exact adress but its about.. .25 miles from my house.

MileHighAssassin · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2009, 04:25:28 PM »

Or just PM me and I will have it shipped directly to your house/work.

SwiftMKIII · « **Reply #38 on:** July 16, 2009, 12:23:16 PM »

I noticed that that flag and fireworks place by A1 had an Amsoil dealer sticker on the front of the building.

lpshade · « **Reply #39 on:** July 16, 2009, 01:31:06 PM »

I have some Royal Purple at my house that I will sell to someone. I not sure how many I have but I'm not going to use them. Send me a PM if your interested and I can let you know how many I have and what I'll let them go for.

Ken

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