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Need some help (didnt get ripped off after all!)
« on: March 25, 2009, 09:41:03 AM »

so heres the story.  i found a set of headlights that i wanted on the vortex, so sent money via paypal to the seller.  that was 29 Jan.  ive been in communication with him since, and the first couple weeks after i sent him the money, the excuse was "ive been really busy and havent had a chance to pull them off my car".  then 16 feb i went to germany.  i told him to go ahead and send them, cuz someone will be home to get them.  he then claims that he misread the message and thought that i said no one would be home while i was in germany, so he was waiting til i got back to send them.  i wrote him back and said to send right away (this is about 6 or 7 march). 

i get another message from him a week later saying that he sent UPS, but they sent it back to him because he "misspelled my last name".  i find this to be bullshit, because i get mail and packages to my house with my name misspelled all the time.  so he says hes going to pick up the package and ship fedex instead (mar 16).  i asked him for a tracking number, and he says that he lost the paperwork from when he shipped it.  so a week went by and still no package.  i called fedex, who is able to pull up shipping info with the recipient address, and they showed no record of anything being shipped to my house in the past several months.  i called UPS to try the same, but theyre arent able to pull up that info.  that was monday that i called fedex.  last time the guy replied to any of my IMs on vortex was last friday. 

the thing that gets me about this is that it would have been one thing if it was some noob on the vortex.  but this guy has been a member since 2004, with a post count of 7000+.  so i would hope for a bit more integrity than that.  i think if the headlights arent here my friday, im going to file a claim through paypal.  you guys have any advice?
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2009, 09:54:56 AM »

what's the guys screen name?
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 10:28:39 AM »

sorry man..i will send the headlights... ;D

nah all joking aside..that is messed up.

vortex scamming seems to be on the rise ::)

furthermore, unfortunately. ...post counts dont equate to level of integrity..it used to...

I have had ONE guy yank me like that before..and well i was glad i could get the money back from paypal...

I say the guy is hiding something...

lame.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2009, 10:33:13 AM »

what's the guys screen name?

x 2....

Additionally, where is he from? Sounds like you are getting ripped off, and I'd start the paypal claim process... it has a few resolution steps that you have to go through before it is escalated to an actuall non-shipment claim and you get your money back....


I wouldnt drag his name on the tex through the mud quite yet... hold off until he ignores your paypal attempts to resolve the issue.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2009, 10:38:53 AM »

what's the guys screen name?

x 2....

Additionally, where is he from? Sounds like you are getting ripped off, and I'd start the paypal claim process... it has a few resolution steps that you have to go through before it is escalated to an actuall non-shipment claim and you get your money back....


I wouldnt drag his name on the tex through the mud quite yet... hold off until he ignores your paypal attempts to resolve the issue.
what he said.... but i would have done this a month ago.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2009, 10:47:53 AM »

his name is mad chef, real name tony moore.  hes from winter park, fl.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 11:33:21 AM »

The FS thread in question eh?

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4213943&page=1


Have you spoken to him on the phone? Start the claim process in paypal and politely let him know you either want your money, or confirmed tracking information...
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2009, 11:34:36 AM »

yes, that is the thread.  no, i havent spoken on the phone.  i havent been able to get that info from anyone. 
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2009, 11:35:54 AM »

send him a PM, and tell him you want to talk to him in person about resolving the issue. Explain to him that you feel there is an obvious issue, and that you dont want to initiate a PP claim....
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 11:56:40 AM »

thanks, barry.  i did just that.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 12:42:10 PM »

Pretty sure you only have 30 days to file the Paypal claim so if I'm reading the timeline correctly you're fucked in that aspect....but. . if you funded the payment with a credit card you can dispute the charge with your Credit card company.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 01:27:13 PM »

i just looked it up...45 days.  so i suppose i am fucked.  if it comes down to it, I'll just go to his house and fuck him up.  haha.  yeah right.  i hope the d-bag writes me back.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 01:34:23 PM »

I am pretty sure you can still do the paypal claim. If anything I would start calling him out in the SE forums. Im sure we know some people who know him.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 02:05:12 PM »

If anything I would start calling him out in the SE forums.

Yeah so I can remove the thread.  Don't do that  ::)
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2009, 02:55:15 PM »

.... mods.  Just ask if anyone knows him. No problem with that.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2009, 03:11:42 PM »

i got burned by some low life in new hampshire and apparently that's all the guy does it rip people off.  he had like six different sn's within the past two or three years.  i finally found out the guys name and through the magic of google i actually found out that he had been arrested for drug possesion.  it was in a local newspaper article that was listed online.  ha.  that's why i never heard back from the fucktard.  so i posted it up in the north east forums on the 'tex for everyone to see.  people starting coming out of the wood work and saying all kinds of shit and how everyone was glad he was behind bars.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 03:24:43 PM »

this is the most recent reply from him:
Mad Chef (2:33 PM 3-25-2009): I just ran out of cash in order to ship, i told u that i shipped so that it would be here by this week but this check i got was a fraud so i just got duped out of $750 bones, i still hve them boxed up with every intention to ship them to you man, i just need to get my hnd on some change

and my reply:
i think the part that upsets me the most is that you lied to me about actually shipping them. if you were short on money, then why didnt you say so? dont keep telling me that theyre shipped when clearly theyre not. if youre lying to me about stuff like that, then how am i supposed to trust that youre going to ship them at all?
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 03:32:21 PM »

Oh yeah.. he's trying to fuck you
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 03:46:22 PM »

freakingunbeli evable....

for real.

Mad chef?  Yah i know the name well, he does frequent the tex...i am sure people know him....

what did he do with your money then?!?!

I mean seriously.

All you have to be is HONEST with people and they will be fine.

I once forgot to send something..by total accident...and about 2 weeks had passed...never heard from him..then all of a sudden..i heard from him..(and i had tried to contact him when i found the thing laying there that i obviously didnt ship)..so i actually refunded him half the money AND send him the item (wasnt high dollar..but i guess it is all PRINCIPLE)....

So yeah, good luck to you.

This is why , more and more, I just deal LOCALLY, in cash, and in person.

Or I have a FEW select people that I buy from repeatedly...b ut even that isnt Guarantee, people in this day and age, tend to be a bit bipolar.

It is obvious that his 7000+ post count means CRAP.

Last thing is that someone could be honest in 399 transactions, but the 400th one that they chose to screw someone over, well they will get what is coming to them...and it sucks more for the person who had to be the 400th.

Sad.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2009, 04:20:53 PM »

update:
Mad Chef (5:13 PM 3-25-2009): yea i know man, to be honest, i really just wanted you to recieve them without having to worry about it so i didnt want to worry you by telling you they hadnt been shipped yet....im really sorry man bad management on my behalf...i know u have no reason to believe me now but im still tring to get these to you, the cost is shy of $20 bux to ship because of my box

mike minnillo (5:29 PM 3-25-2009): honestly, if you would have told me from the get go that they werent shipped yet, i wouldnt be as worried. but when you tell me that they are shipped and 2 weeks goes by and still nothing, then i worry. id say that if youre going to ship, get it done soon. if not, I'll take my money back.
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2009, 04:35:19 PM »

Tell him to not worry about it and just refund your paypal, if he doesn't have 20 to ship your lights that sounds pretty shady to me... i think you are f'd
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2009, 04:38:14 PM »

if he doesnt have the 20 bones to ship the box, I am sure as hell he doesnt have the $350 to refund Mike...


Just be persistant, honest, reasonable, and professional with him... If he has a reputation, and people in his region know him, he will either do you right, or he will end up like some other people we all know  ::)
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2009, 04:44:04 PM »

if he doesnt have the 20 bones to ship the box, I am sure as hell he doesnt have the $350 to refund Mike...


Just be persistant, honest, reasonable, and professional with him... If he has a reputation, and people in his region know him, he will either do you right, or he will end up like some other people we all know  ::)

Much truth in this....

However, some people just seem to not care about their reputation.

Also, I still find it hard to believe these people can sleep at night.....Mayb e if you sit by their window with a bat...then may not be able to sleep. ;D
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2009, 04:55:22 PM »

Tell him to use the 350 you sent him to ship it.  Thats just unacceptable. 
I would still try to go thru paypal.  If you start talking refund and going thru paypal, he might get nervous and ship it. 

Barry.. I think his storry is crap so thats why I said he can refund his dough..
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Re: Need some help (probably getting ripped off)
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2009, 05:10:36 PM »

lets revisit...

he forgets to ship..

then he writes the wrong name (just not spelled correctly...ya h right..bogus)

so it gets returned...

now he is talking about being out 750?  WTF?

And now he cant ship it bc he is broke?

This story sucks.......

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