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Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« on: March 11, 2009, 02:24:57 PM »

Went to hueberger yesterday, ready to deal, was looking at 2 specific cars, when salesman approached, I asked if they had others that were not on the showroom floor yet, and he said yes. Told us were to go and said he'd be right there in 5-10 minutes. Jess and I walked over and were comparing the 6 cars that they had 3 of one model and 3 of another..... Enter Arthur, the salesman....du ndundun....

I told Arthur we were looking for a safe family sized VW, and we wanted either a Passat or CC-sport (6spd) or Tiguan SE 4motion, but we did not want the sunroof on either. I then told him the following:
1- I have owned VWs for 95% of my adult life
2- My dad had them when I was a kid.
3- I am a member of E719 VW car club
4- I’ve helped on the DATR planning committee.

I start asking about financing specials, and he's says
<We start walking across the lot to the other new VW's>
"Do you have a trade, how many miles are on it and how old?"
(Me) "I asked about financing, wasn't talking about trading in anything."
(Arthur) "Well I can get you into a legacy or a Forrester for cheaper than those two. They hold their value better than VW, we are the #1 Subaru dealer in the nation (<---he says this 12 times in the next 15minutes)
(Me) I’m not sure I like Subaru’s, I have never owned one, and I’d really rather look at the VW's
(Arthur) goes on to tell me stories about how people love their Subaru’s, they last forever, and how Subaru designed AWD and is the best AWD system ever... and they can get the turbo in them....throws in about 6 more 'we are the #1 Subaru dealer in the nation'
<We walk down to the use car lot and look at used VW's>
(Me) ok that's great, but we're here to see VW's, that what we want to buy today.
<Arthur then points out every non-VW in the lot, as we are looking at the VWs and we both reply yeah but we are looking for a VW>
yada...yada..y ada....
<back in the show room, we walk to the VW side....>
(Arthur) well we are the #1 Subaru dealer in the nation, but if you want a VW, how about a legacy. <WTF>
(jess) I don't like the legacy, I like the tiguan and the passat.
(Arthur) ok I’ll go grab one for a test drive....
(jess and I) thank you.
<he walks off>
(Me) ok...
enter-Arthur then drives up in a Forrester base model....WTF.
<we test drive the hippie fag-wagon, it smells like it is burning oil, is a total dog. sounds like it is going to explode getting on the highway>
(Arthur) still rambling on about #1 Subaru dealer, hippies love their Subaru, they last forever and I can get u this cheaper...<I’m not even listening to the ramblings of this idiot>
(jess) well this car is worse than my 98 Honda civic...slower, seats suck, and looks cheap.
(Arthur) do you have a trade, how many miles are on it and how old? cuz we can put you in this for the perfect price.
(me) NO, this is not the car for us, we want a VW, we want to see VW tiguans, and Passats only....we do NOT want a Subaru.
(Arthur)ok, I’ll grab one when we get back....<he goes dead silent until we pull in to the lot> I’ll be right back with the perfect car.
(me) but make sure.....<too late he was gone>

<enter Arthur with a Forrester Turbo>
(me) GDSOBMFSAN.... ...<I whisper under my breath>
<my turn to test drive.....>
jess can see the look in my eyes as I get in the car and close the door....I put on my seatbelt and yank it tight....she does the same and grabs the oh shit handle and braces herself before we left the lot, with on oh fuck look in her face....
needless to say.....
I raped the shit out of that thing in the 12 minutes I got to drive it.....ground every gear, every shift, 5k RPM clutch dumps (clutches are not supposed to slip with <12 miles on them are they?), brake checks, curb oops, swerve to hit a pot hole, oops...grind, bang, brakes.....rod e that thing harder than a $2 dead hooker.

(Arthur is in the back, saying we are the #1 Subaru dealers, and telling me how he knew I’d love the Subaru)

we get back, oops I left the e-brake on the whole time.....damn.

we got out, and Arthur is like, ok I'll go get the paperwork....
(both) wait we're going to go, we need time to think about it. ok well let me get you a brochure so you can see all the colors and options for your new Forrester turbo......
<we turn and walk away>
<almost made it to the GTi, when he runs up here and shoves a brochure in my hands and says...>
(Arthur) I stapled my card on there for when you come back and see me when you are ready to buy...
<get into the Gti, and drive off, throwing the hippie fag-wagon brochure out the window as we leave>

we went to lunch then home, we talked about what we wanted with what options..... got on the net, and checked all of the VW inventory in the state and found one we wanted at McDonald VW.......i then placed a call to the sales manager Jason, talked about Arthur and hueberger for a bit, told him his website showed he had this car stock # XYZ on the lot, asked what options were on the car and if ti was still on site....he looked it up said it just arrived on saturday and they still had it.

GREAT i'm coming fro CO springs i'll be there in about 2 hours, he said ok, i'll have it pulled up and ready when you get here.

sales man called about 15minutes later, as i'm walking out the door. ok it's ready. see you when you get here.
<arrived and warmly welcomed by sales team,>

 Tim Greene, the salesman took us out front, car was there, already detailed and ready to go.....went for a test drive
deal went perfectly smooth...... great salesman, very honest and friendly and straight forward.

after deal was done, talked with both him and the sales manager for a bit, then drove home in our brand new car.....

i would recommend Tim Greene to anyone in the market for VW.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 02:40:25 PM »

while I feel your plight.... your story made my day with the "$2 Dead Hooker" comment
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 03:04:40 PM »

Arthur sounds like a twat

Pics of the new VW!
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 03:11:44 PM »

So what did you buy?   I bought my vw for Mcdonald too.  If that guy at heuberger would have tried that crap (I wouldn't have gone there in the first place but thats besides the point) I would have said wait... this isn't the vw Im looking for.  Either pull up in the vw I want or Im leaving.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 03:13:40 PM »

i dont think the cc sports are out yet from what i was reading. but when i bought my car the guy was really cool. my first time buying a car and we got it right away with low payments
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 03:45:28 PM »

My last trip to Shitberger was similar. I had to go there to obtain a refund on the extended warranty I had on my old TDI that was totaled (That was a 6-month fiasco there all by itself trying to get my money back) and decided to browse the lot. Sales man asked if he could help me and my wife. I said I just wrecked my 06 TDI and was looking to replace it with an 08 GLI or wolfsberg. The two requirements I told him it had to have was a 6 speed and not be red. He left us at the coffee bar for an hour and a half and then came back to us and told us that there wasn't any in the state, but he had some a nice Subaru for me to look at. I then went over to Al Serra and talked to Louis, the guy that sold us my wife's jetta, and gave him the same list of requirements. He said that he would have to get back to us since it was after 7pm, and first thing next morning (8:30 am) I get a call letting me know that they had a black GLI on it's way down from Tynans in Denver.

The moral of the story; Hueberger sucks big fat monkey balls. The service department was ok (par for any dealership I've dealt with), but it's not worth it to deal with all of the other lying, dickheads and sleezebags that work there. I just wish they'd go ahead and drop VW already instead of trying to switch vw owners over to subarus. That one dealership makes me want to never own any subaru, ever!

i dont think the cc sports are out yet from what i was reading. but when i bought my car the guy was really cool. my first time buying a car and we got it right away with low payments
They're out. Al Serra had one a couple of weeks ago. Payments are not everything. How much interest are you going to pay by the time you're done with the loan?
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 04:11:01 PM »

HAHHAHA this is awesome. I should go down just to test drive some BOOBaroos.

I hate subarus.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 04:35:34 PM »

I FUCKN hate boobars. or whatever.. Glad you got taken care of. I am lookin at buying my wife in july a VW toureg tdi. Love em. Hueberger sucks donkey @#$! ;D
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 04:51:07 PM »

LMAO.

ok so great story

BUT, I am going to offer my experience.

YES, they are the number one dealership in the nation..as far as Subaru sales..bhlabhb lahblbha

Ok...great.

Now, I have an R32 as you all know...BUT...m y gf (basically my wife..haha) drives our other car...which I am also..2008 subaru 2.5 five speed....

i will have to say the car is a DOG..yes..but it rides great in the snow, and it is all she wanted ..that combined with 190 dollar a month payments say it is a winner..

that was my FIRST non VAG car..and i was hesistant..BUT ..I only did it bc it was under OUR own terms...

Our lease will be up in about 4 months..and we went to Emich to test drive Tiguans and even a mk5 r32..for shits and giggles.

I have seen the person you are talking about...yes he is a douche...these guys are like robots they see nothing.

BUT..I will have to say if you go there talk to DOUG KNOCH...he is the guy that leased our subaru....just painless experience...D oug also knows a LOT about vws and loves to just shoot the shit about any of their cars..

In fact he knows that i love my r32..and he jokingly says we will trade it in for that STI!..then he says...I know you are a vw guy..and he proceeds to let me drive the CC (which i did) when my R32 was in for some warranty work about 4 months ago.


So all in all SHITberger may be just that..however dont generalize the place just bc of one douche..i personally only take my car there for warranty or if i need a part at discount (read WHOLESALE..) that is of course if Emich doesnt have it first...bc i will gladly drive the 1 hr to pick it up from John or Josh at Emich's part dept....

Anyway..

again I am sure Arthur is a douche..as are a lot of those subarobots (yes i just made that word up)...but

not all are like that....well i know ONE of them isnt..


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sorry for your experience though man..it DOES blow when you are basically telling the guy NO SUBARUS..and he keeps shoving it in your face..i would have just said..listen.. ..what part of NO SUBARUS dont you get ....and then asked to speak to a manager or the owner...


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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 05:00:09 PM »

wow i raged and laughed. that would make me angry you should of had left when he said subaru
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 05:06:40 PM »

Yeah I had a pretty crappy experience over 10 yrs ago... got a salesman fired and I wont buy there.  And seeing how I hear stories like mikes all the time, I'd rather skip the headache and not go there to begin with.  Not like Im in the market for anything new anyways... my next dub will be a mk4 r.  
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM »

The first Subie he pulled up to the curb should have resulted in you walking right past him to another salesman with a "Hello, my name is Jimmy and I'd like to look at your VW inventory"
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 05:58:36 PM »

09 CC sport, 6speed candy white, two-tone is what i got.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 06:30:42 PM »

listen....i am not a subaru lover by any means..in fact i am more hardcore vw than well....than most...

so i had a hard time convincing my gf to drive the new rabbit..but well she wanted something AWD..that wasnt going to be like 300 plus for a lease..

so there you have it..

sorry for all the bad experiences.

i think we will get a 2.0t 4 mo tiguan if it all works out here in sept....

fingers are crossed...

i have always had at least one vw in the driveway..sinc e forever..and most of the time two..and one time four..hah..

post pics of the CC.....!!!

it looks a bit like a benz....
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 06:44:37 PM »

Heuberger is a fucking joke.

I went there to test drive that blue .:R32 they've had for a while.  Price tag said like $23,500 with 32k miles...  I had never driven an .:R so I went, talked to the dude and got him to get the keys. 

He drives it out of the lot, goes fucking flying up the road like a complete asshole then pulls over and let's me drive.  I drive the shit out of it but safely...  We go up some mountain pass or something, he takes over for the ride up and goes flying around blind turns at like 60mph when there's families and children picnicing and hiking and shit nearby.  I was like, that's not necessary, I already know the car is sweet.

Anyway, we get back and he's like, so is this something you'd want to buy?  I say yeah we can talk.  First thing he says when we sit down is that its a limited edition high demand car, "They sell... we aren't desperate to get rid of it" and they are firm on the price and then proceeds to ask me how much of a payment I can afford... I'm like, well no offense dude, rare car or not, it's a sporty AWD car, I can get an Audi A4 that's 2 years newer with the same mileage for $3,000 less.  I know its rare but its still 5 years old with 32k on the clock, why would I pay $23,000 for that.  He keeps trying to tell me the whole time that Heuberger is doing good unlike other dealerships and they don't need to make desperate deals to sell cars.  I'm like, gimme a break, I don't give a shit how good you're doing.

I tell him, alright well I can't really afford this right now, I'll give you guys a call when I sell my old car.  Then he starts asking me about my old car and then tells me its work like $1,000 and I'm dreaming if I want to get $5,000 out of it.  I walk away.  I get back to school, turns out the douche-bag forgot to give me back my driver's license when he made a copy (a good tactic to get me to return).

Now, 6 weeks later, I bought an .:R32 in just as good a condition, only 10k more on the clock, for $6,000 less and theirs is still sitting in the parking lot for $23k.  I make it an effort to park in front of the sales area every time I go there now.


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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2009, 06:45:21 PM »

I remember when Hueberger tried to give me 6500 for trade in on the S4.  This was back in mid 2007 when it had ~70k miles on it.

Hueberger gave me over twice as much, but the manager at shitberger wouldnt go over 7k.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2009, 06:53:30 PM »

so i had a hard time convincing my gf to drive the new rabbit..but well she wanted something AWD..that wasnt going to be like 300 plus for a lease..

$300 + for a lease on a rabbit? GTI/GLIs go for that much. Rabbits and jetta base models float between 189-199 depending on the special.

AWD is the only thing subaru has for it, and you sacrifice other areas for it. Shoot, the damn things are basically cheapened waterboxers hooked up to the synchro drive system anyways, so at least they started with a good base, but the rest of the car is lacking. For the people that are more concerned with having AWD the subaru is perfect, but I've found that when you actually need AWD, for the 4x4 purpose people intend to use them for, you end up needing the ground clearance and heavy lug tires that come with trucks.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2009, 07:11:09 PM »

subarooooos are pretty fugly, and for the most part (not ALL of them) The owners look like tools.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2009, 07:24:15 PM »

lol...alright guys.

i said i didnt want to pay 300 plus for a lease on an 4 mo tiguan at that time...that is what i meant.

and quit freaking telling me how ugly subarus are..i know they are!


the legacy is not however..i think it looks very sleek..yes it is a freakin DOG..like i said..i can outrun it on my own to feet from a dead stop.

no need to tell me how sucky they are...

and that is why my gf got itAWD...this was the first time she has been in snow and driving in these conditions..pe riod..

i know i want another a4 or maybe another vw....possibly a tiguan..we dont know.

we shall see when the time comes..i will make it a pt to drive the subaru to a meet ..just to spite you guys

lol..jk.

but really though....the car is peaceful to drive for me..after sitting in my r32 and having the exhaust drone and it being loud....of course there is nothing that beats that sound!

but something it is nice to have a break.

ok i am done defending..yes STI are freakin ugly

i test drove once..and sat in one..and wondered if the doors were made out of cardboard...fo ck.

anyway!

vws for life.....kapee sh?..


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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2009, 08:13:49 PM »

so i had a hard time convincing my gf to drive the new rabbit..but well she wanted something AWD..that wasnt going to be like 300 plus for a lease..

$300 + for a lease on a rabbit? GTI/GLIs go for that much. Rabbits and jetta base models float between 189-199 depending on the special.

AWD is the only thing subaru has for it, and you sacrifice other areas for it. Shoot, the damn things are basically cheapened waterboxers hooked up to the synchro drive system anyways, so at least they started with a good base, but the rest of the car is lacking. For the people that are more concerned with having AWD the subaru is perfect, but I've found that when you actually need AWD, for the 4x4 purpose people intend to use them for, you end up needing the ground clearance and heavy lug tires that come with trucks.

IMO the only Subie worth buying was the 04-06 STi's.  They were actually built very close (in terms of drivetrain) to the rally cars, so they could take a serious serious beating.  Outside of that, the original WRX's trannies has all kinds of problems, could barely handle high 200's whp without sploding.  Brakes were terrible.  Etc etc.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2009, 09:12:26 PM »

I am a very patient person, but I wouldn't put up with him driving up in a Subaru when I told him I didn't want one for a heartbeat. Just shows that he doesn't care what you want and that's unacceptable imo. One more reason why I buy private...

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »

we shall see when the time comes..i will make it a pt to drive the subaru to a meet ..just to spite you guys

It wouldn't be the first time.  ;D

I liked the RS from the gen before the WRX was imported, but everything else just seems too hyped. The new legacy looks pretty good though.

AWD/4x4 just means you have an easier time of going forward. You still have the same steer tires and the brakes work just the same. The AWD system doesn't help the car handle in the way that people want it to. Of coarse, I grew up driving mustangs in the winter here so I'm a know-it-all on the subject.  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2009, 09:19:44 PM »

Lol, yeah i learned how to drive in a 96' GT stang here in CO.  Well, let me correct that i "learned" how to drive my from my parents, my buddy bryan taught me how to drive in his 'stang.
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2009, 09:47:07 PM »

we shall see when the time comes..i will make it a pt to drive the subaru to a meet ..just to spite you guys

It wouldn't be the first time.  ;D

I liked the RS from the gen before the WRX was imported, but everything else just seems too hyped. The new legacy looks pretty good though.

AWD/4x4 just means you have an easier time of going forward. You still have the same steer tires and the brakes work just the same. The AWD system doesn't help the car handle in the way that people want it to. Of coarse, I grew up driving mustangs in the winter here so I'm a know-it-all on the subject.  ;D

Indeed, the legacy is not bad looking.

I think it is certainly better than the FUGLY ass imprezas nowadays...the sti is fucken HIDEOUS now...i mean seriously...lo ok at the taillights....

yuck.

But i still think the EVO 8 and the current ones...are  by far the ugliest...

You are right AWD gives a person a false sense of security...tur ning, braking..you still slide...

Lack of proper tires...up shit creek without a paddle.---I learned that in my 01 quattro a4 going up to breckenridge with my gf two years ago...before we moved here...we had driven from dallas with SUMMER tires..up the pass and there was a blizzard...tha t was NOT fun. :o
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Re: Why Hueberger sucks a big one.....
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2009, 12:01:07 AM »

Jimmy, that story is great - I wish I had been there to see this douche drive up in a Subaru when you told him you wanted a VW. Why did you even bother taking the first Forrester out?
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