well I guess Josh's boss was correct. Now having put over 200 miles on top of the original post miles, all is great. Sound gone, vehicle stops. Side not in my research there were alot of post about the loudness of the rotors and pads. I understand this better now. I wouldnt say loud, but hard breaking you can hear the pads and rotors working. not in a bad way. Think of it as BOV or low growl of an exhaust at 2000rpm at 60 mph. you notice, but it doesnt bother you. What i understood from the research was squeaking pads and stuff. I have experienced at this time none of it. we will have to see with more miles. But I will say they are a hell of improvement on my stock stuff. And as of yet I have not felt them fade. as of yet. keep you posted