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[VWO4L]

Looks like Hyundai is going RWD with a turbo 4cyl or 300HP V-6 for the redesigned Tiburon.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0709_2009_hyundai_tiburon/

Supposed to start in the low $20K range.
Pics:

[Rukh]

I'd bet that it'll be better-looking than the BMW as well.

[MileHighAssassin]

Damn... impressive.

Hyundai has been making some sweet cars.

They are going to be bringing some diesel offering soon.

[Jesus]

Yet another reason that none of VW's current lineup excites me :rolleyes:

[kyvr6]

Yet another reason that none of VW's current lineup excites me :rolleyes:

what the reason of the male model in the background?

[Giggidy]

haha that's enzo dude's cousin........ ..hyundia dude

[mikeminnillo]

looks to me like some redneck looking out the window of his double wide, wondering why the aliens are visiting him again.

[Scott]

That new Tiburon is going to be VERY popular! I actually see Hyundai filling the true "people's car" gap that VW chose to leave in the market by not listening to all of the enthusiasts that were only trying to tell them what made sense!

I even talked to the folks at CP&B (VW's ad agency) about this when they interviewed me last week. They are quite frustrated with all of VW's decisions in terms of the US market, but they are doing what they can with the mess placed in their laps.

[SwiftMKIII]

I sure hope VW decides to listen this time around...

[Scott]

I sure hope VW decides to listen this time around...

LOL... you're kidding right?

[kutark]

./sigh....

All i think when i see that car is:

"Racing honda's (transplant hyundai's) is like participating in the special olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded."

[Scott]

dude... Hyundai is becoming a SERIOUSLY competent car maker... it is time to shake off that stereotype and give them a fair shake.

[VWO4L]

dude... Hyundai is becoming a SERIOUSLY competent car maker... it is time to shake off that stereotype and give them a fair shake.

Agreed.

The new Santa Fe is a serious competitor to the RX350, it even looks similar.  It's not 100% to the Lexus, but 90% close and enough to make up for the price difference.  They will also be selling a true competitor to the large, luxury sedan market with legitimate credentials as well including an all-new, nearly 400HP V-8.  This is just another step in Hyundai's rise. 

The increase in styling, design, comfort, power etc. in each iteration of Hyundai's vehicles is amazing. Look at a Sonata sedan from 5-7yrs ago and compare it to today's model(itself, already a few years old) and you'll be quite amazed.  Definitely not something the domestics have yet been able to attain.

[SwiftMKIII]

Definitely not something the domestics have yet been able to attain.

... especially not at the price.

Got a buddy with an 07 Sonata Limited with the Platinum package.  VERY nice car, and it really goes when you push on that pedal on the right.

[kutark]

dude... Hyundai is becoming a SERIOUSLY competent car maker... it is time to shake off that stereotype and give them a fair shake.

Well, we'll let it ride on this car.

I do have to say, when i had the S4 in the shop, one of the cars they gave me as a loaner was a new sonata.  I was actually pretty impressed.  Engine had good power, interior had a decent quality feel to it (far better than any domestic car), the only thing that sucked was the ride/handling and the engine responsiveness .  But, then again, i was used to driving an s4, so /shrug.

I'll try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

its just the problem is going to come up that b/c they will be relatively cheap, a bunch of asshat kids are going to buy them, then they're gonna race them, then they're gonna wreck them, then the insurance rates are going to skyrocket on them.  And then i'm still gonna hate them.

[sad_rocc]

Hyundais are very nice. My family has um, 4 or 5 I think. A sante fe, a few of the 4-dr sedans (whatever they're called, one in GT trim which is VERY nice. The auto trannies seem to have a tendancy to die at 100k though. At least the ones from early 2000, I dunno about now. My cousin beats the shit out of his <4-dr sedan name here> in NYC and it's been totally problem free.

Scott, yeah those poor ad agencies. It must be soooooooo hard to accept giant checks to come up with running gags like the Deutchland guy in the lab coat. Are you kidding me? Agencies don't care if they're designing ads for the greatest car in the world or a tin can with a couple wheels and a wind-up motor in it. Nice blantant subtle name-drop there too. 

[Scott]

I could give two shits about name dropping, I was just stating what I was told.... and I honestly think these guys give a shit, it is not just about "the big check"

[sad_rocc]

Easy tiger, just busting your balls a bit. Yes, I can understand that anything outside the "sweatpants" or "questionable car repair" categories may throw you a bit...

It's nice that these guys actually care, but that makes it pretty hard to do their job. If you're unexcited and unmotivated by the line of products you're supposed to shill, it means you have to work 3x as hard to get others excited and motivated. And what kind of mess do they have? VW's cars aren't quite as shitty as they were in early 2000, everyone loves the GTI and R32 and their line of cars now come with bigger engines, which means the ad companies now get to mention the hp of the cars instead of trying to hide it. Sure, there's nothing big and new and exciting debuting, but that's pretty much the norm in the car industry.

[DutchVDub]

Wow, looks like the Tiburon is going to be beating up on 350z's.  I wonder if Nissan has any plans to replace/update the Z.  Its a great car that does what it is supposed to better than a lot of other cars out there, but its getting old and needs some updating.  Especially the interior.  It looks great until you sit in it and feel just how cheap those plastics are.  I give mad props to Hyundai for doing with the Tiburon what VW should have done with the new Rocco.  Oh yeah, and speaking of new Rocco. WHERE THE *F* IS IT!!??!!

[VWO4L]

Oh yeah, and speaking of new Rocco. WHERE THE *F* IS IT!!??!!

Didn't you get the memo?  We aren't getting it.  VW(edit: VWoA) is too afraid of cannibalizing GTI sales.  It is going to be sold, just overseas and not in the US.

[DutchVDub]

Memo?  No, must not have gotten it.  Wait, was it attached to the one about the TPS reports?

[VWO4L]

More news:
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_los_angeles/0711_2007_hyundai_genesis_coupe_concept/index.html

Looks nice, not 100% sold on the louvered hood though.  It is still a concept however.  I see a fair amount of G35/37 coupe influence as well which is great, I love those cars.  It's also standard practice for Hyundai, they seem to swipe their styling from a number of other manufacturers.

[Gallep]

Yet another reason that none of VW's current lineup excites me :rolleyes:

Pat, just go to Audi already shit.

After that, you'll never be concerned what that "VW" company is or was doing ever again. 

[sad_rocc]

Agreed on the louvered hood. And I just don't like the whole sweeping headlights fashion trend that's been going on. Reminds me a little of an eclipse, especially the back, but that may be the color. The cuts in the side are unique and pretty neat and I like the nose as well. Looking pretty sporty.

[Jesus]

Yet another reason that none of VW's current lineup excites me :rolleyes:

Pat, just go to Audi already shit.

After that, you'll never be concerned what that "VW" company is or was doing ever again. 

I have been contemplating that for a couple years actually.  I have wanted a TT since the first day I saw one back when they came out in Germany.  I was living in Germany at the time and actually got to drive one before they ever went on sale in the US. 

[DutchVDub]

I like that a lot.  Not fully sold on the hood, but for the most part thats a nice looking car.

Oh, and speaking of Audi.  I love the new A5's.  Those things are tits.  Also, the new TT's are super nice looking.  They make me want a TT even more.

[VWO4L]

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshows/14339/hyundai-genesis-coupe-concept.html

Another new story on it.  Pricing should be around $25K for both the I-4 version(just under $25K) and the V-6 one(starting at $25K).  Apparently, they are aiming for the Mustang as competition and the power(plus RWD) suggests it also. 

It may not be the Tiburon replacement after all as I guess Hyundai has been showing another concept that will be the replacement.  Although, none of that really changes my feelings about it.  I'd still consider one.

[kutark]

This hurts to say, a lot, and makes me a bigger hypocrite than i already am.

I like it, a lot.  I know thats a concept, but that is fucking hawt sauce.

And why the hell would you not like the sweeping headlights, i think they look phenomenal.

[VWO4L]

OK, so now that the production versions have been shown, what does everyone think?

Personally, I'm not 100% sold on the front end, it just looks too flat and wide to me.  I may feel differently seeing it in person though.  Overall, I think Hyundai did a great job and will likely have a hit on their hands.  I see a lot of G35/G37 Coupe and 350Z influence, especially from the side and rear views.  But, I think Hyundai copied a pretty good-looking set of cars and could have done far worse.

Some pics and links for reference:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/19/new-york-2008-hyundai-genesis-coupe-live/

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/tuners-delight-photochopping-the-hyundai-genesis-coupe/

Some pics from the above links:






and my fave of the photoshops:

[Jesus]

Don't really care for the styling.  It's definitely got a distinct Asian look

[Jesus]

Now this impresses me...those hookers can drive and they look good too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmyIjNmTVoU